There was also a fourth factor… who teeny-bopping girls (myself included) were most attracted to. There were literal arguments during recess at my middle school over who was cuter: Nick Carter or Justin Timberlake. Clearly Justin won, so Nsync won, but not like I'm biased or anything. I definitely didn't own any Mrs.…

Roose?? Is that you?

His position at the Twins is inherited, like most of these families, unless they're unseated by battle or war and the Freys have always been bannermen for Riverrun. So yeah, Walder Frey showed up late to the Battle of the Trident, but he showed up (once he knew which side would win) and he pledged his allegiance (to…

And he's dumb enough to do this and not realize that's giving the Freys exactly what they want.

Except for Mary, which… just how can you forget that one??

I imagine that (1) Robb was way too caught up in his wife at that time, (2) he probably assumed it was just another insult he would have to tolerate in order to satisfy Frey and just get through the night.

I don't think I've ever seen him make it through a tv show or movie. Is he just trolling his fans or what??

As someone who has read the books, I started crying into my red wine about 20 seconds into the opening theme song, so just be happy that you didn't know, man!!!

You have no idea how long I've been holding in this spoiler. Feel like a weight is finally off my shoulder.

I was never a Catelyn fan, especially after reading her treatment of Jon in the books and I always thought she was a bit of an idiot for capturing Tyrion and blaming him for what happened to Bran. If anything, I equally blamed her for Ned's death, as much as I did Joffrey, but I still felt horrible and shocked to see…

Question… at what point do we blame Melisandre for RW and thank her for PW, or do we just chuck up her three leech-wishes as coincidence and luck?

Haven't you heard? He's Gandalf!!!

How can I put this delicately… I mean a mentally handicapped penis is still above a wife. Oops

Why wasn't the Umbers at the dinner on the tv show? Maybe I forgot something, but aren't they also killed at the wedding after getting ridiculously drunk.

I read his version a few times and still didn't understand it.

I think I put down my copy and didn't pick it up again for weeks. I was just pissed and hurt and angry at everyone: George R.R. Martin, Catelyn, Robb, Jeyne Westerling/Talisa, Grey Wind, Tywin, Melisandre, even Ned Stark for putting us in this stupid position in the first place.

Well… the credits to next week totally had Jaime in them, I believe, talking to Tywin.

LOL, same for me, because they all just think or thought I was talking about Ned.

I don't understand the change to put the throat to Frey's wife though? Was that more powerful than his grandson??? Because we've already established that women mean shit in this world, whereas Catelyn specifically asked "a son for a son" in the book.

Agreed… I was crying and drowning in my fourth glass of red wine by the time Rains of Castamere started playing.