Watched "Catch Me If You Can" on NYE - wouldn't say it's cheerless, but it isn't exactly a happy movie, either. And it's a Christmas movie!

Loved it. This was full-on horrorshow X-Files, with, yes, some heavy leaning on personal issues wrt to Mulder and Scully, but mostly just holy HECK what are they going to do now?

I wanted to love it. Orlando Jones is a badass! Jenny has stuff to do and some wry dialogue! Abbie and Ichabod have a few "I'll die for you" moments. But it felt … off. Pacing? Direction? Excessive Katrina? More headed than Headless? (For once Hawley shut up and made himself useful.)

Grandson! Or he also has the immortality thing going :)

I think he distilled some kind of serum from them, so I'm going with "no" on that.

Yep! I've said elsewhere in these comments but I'll say it again: it was far, far more unsettling to see him persuade his brother to trust him. We didn't need to see anything more. I knew right away how badly that was going to go.

That would be cool. Who knows at this point?

Yes, he did, but the tie was just a bonus. The planting of that … thing (I got lost during the how-we're-taking-down-the-satellite conversation) was the primary reason for the transaction.

I have to stoutly disagree. Seeing him kill his brother and parents would have been a lot of "yeah, yeah." It's what we expect from him. But watching him convince his brother to TRUST him, and then lead him "home"? Holy shit that was scary and creepy. Ward is outdoing Garrett.

And most of us hadn't ever seen Dichen Lachman, Enver Gjokaj, Fran Kranz, or Reed Diamond before that. It really was amazing.

I have loved his work since Blue Velvet. How many of y'all haven't seen that? And those who haven't, wtf are you waiting for?!

It still could be. Hell, do we even have a name for him besides "Doctor"?

I have done SUCH a 180 on him. Cannot get enough of creepy logical evil Ward.

She will be back, I'm sure! Of course this is the show that killed Brad Dourif in one episode and Lucy Lawless in two, but Dichen's character is bound to reappear in Agent Carter and with Young Kyle in AoS.

Coffee. Nose. Ouch.

It was a terrific episode and it was actually hard to click on the AV Club review, knowing how sour it was sure to be. I liked the handling of Ward - we didn't need to see the family's deaths. The way he persuaded his brother to trust him and then walked off toward horror was, IMO, creepier and more effective.

Re: Dichen Lachman. I would be willing to bet good money that she will be in a lot more AOS flashbacks and almost certainly in Agent Carter (Carter mentioned her during the interrogation). If so, she would be working with Enver Gjokaj again. How I have missed him.

I … thought it was Ranjit? But maybe. That would be cool.

They still could take it there, as there've been several intervening generations - but we'll find out more in two weeks.

Why is the rum gone?