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Too soon.

You push *one* kid out of *one* window and kill *one* King and all of a sudden it's kid-pusher this, kingslayer that.

Hasn't this show taught us that power comes in many forms — and the political kind with names and armies and a castle certainly doesn't have the most longevity?

"The Stark family were the protagonists, and they're mostly wiped out or else are relatively helpless kids."

I think Jon left Ygritte so Tormund didn't use her against him or kill her outright.

It was a ham-handed explanation of what seems like a pretty important development ("Hey, that city we've been trying to sack for half this season? We sacked it in about 30 minutes. No biggie. It got a little weird when we got surrounded by a far superior force, but then we talked it out and they're totally cool. I

And definitely don't look up the words to "The Rains of Castamere." That's how it got spoiled for me.

Just that he wants everyone to be as miserable as he is.

Kind of a ham-handed portrayal, but I'll take it over some goofy conspiracy alternative.

"I don't want these."

He's Theon's angry dad.

In some viewers' eyes, they whacked Tony Soprano in Season 1 and they're still going (there's also one more episode to go).

"So we're still walking?"
"Yep. You still illiterate and easily impressed?"
"Yep. Still fat?"
"Yep."
"Carry on."

I haven't looked it up, but I think it's legal in most states to mace them.

Dany didn't lose her husband and unborn child as a consequence of helping the captive. She lost her husband as a general consequence of war (and probably Dothraki brutality) and her child as a consequence of trying to cheat death with dark magic. The captive said it herself: "you knew the price." Like I said, there

That's a fair point. I should have said: you have to understand the game to stay in it. And Robb certainly did not understand the game very well.

Question unrelated to the Red Wedding: Were we meant to have questions about what really happened at the end of the Dany plotline, or was it meant to say "they won, but battles are expensive to shoot and we just blew the whole budget on throat blood?" It seemed odd and a little off for a victory scene, but any twist

Not true at all. Bran has the power get in people's brains (and he's like 12 going on 20 at this point). Arya is a badass in training. Sansa's a prisoner, but at least now she's on Team Tyrion. Honorary Stark Jon Snow is still kicking. Rickon even has dialogue!

I was spoiled on Robb's death by the friggin' Rains of Castamere GoT wiki page (I blame The National…I just thought it was a cool song so I Googled it without really thinking). But I didn't expect errrybody else in the room and in the Stark camp at large to go, too.

And for bonus points, he's married to Catelyn cray-cray sister. Like I said, it's a very interesting alignment. Considering he swung into full "heel" territory at the end of The Climb, it'll be fascinating to see if we end up rooting for him if he tries to get revenge on Frey.