Yeah, I hadn't watched this one in years, and when I saw it again I thought "whoa, is that Grodenchik?" And it was. And man, he was even more annoying than he was on DS9.

"Ship in a Bottle" is as ridiculous as every other holodeck story, but still turns out pretty good. Clever, and has heart. Most of the rest are unwatchable. I know people like "Our Man Bashir," and obviously the cast loved it, but all that stuff makes me cringe. I don't even like Vic Fontaine. Not even a little. Am I…

Yeah. I mean, we already KNEW what a Borg ship looked like. It was iconic, and one of the few really cool ship concepts of the TNG era. Why mess with it?

Manic Pixie Dream (Space) Girl. Because I am an emotionally arrested idiot, I guess.

I don't know whether we have or not, but they eat together a lot from here on out. It's clearly a routine for them. Actually done in a nice, low-key way, for the most part. It's a believable adult relationship.

…we knew this was coming.

Just popping back in to say that I'm watching "The Perfect Mate," in preparation for this week's discussion. And man, the Frakes thread on this one is gonna be EPIC. I can't wait.

That was this week! "The First Duty!" I'd forgotten about that already. It wasn't the holodeck — he went to the REAL Calgary. And lent his sweater to the dead guy. Does this give a patriotic thrill? Because it should.

It's got legs! Literally! Those fabulous Space Fashions…
Seriously, that would be a lot of fun. In a post-Mad Men age, people would eat up a behind-the-scenes Sixties Hollywood Chic comedy/drama. With lots of drinking and lots of guys in rubber suits. Have to be HBO, with lots of nudity and cursing on cheap sets.…

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Especially on a Nerd Show, it seems kind of harsh for Picard to fall into despair at realizing he'd grown up to be a nerd. I know the point was that he'd become cautious and indecisive, or whatever, but the show is implying that it's people like that who do the boring brainy jobs. Real…

…'bout to get his Jamaharon on.

Broccoli — in TNG? Or all of Trek?

Or, again, even Sub Rosa. That one's got laugh-out-loud awful moments, rather than just plain awful.

Yeah, even as I wrote that I realized that probably had to be the reason. That's pretty gory (and pretty cool) for Star Trek, that zero-gravity blood thing.

That IS weird. Must be some kind of glitch. You can't have made THAT many enemies, right?

It's a D. As Zack says, it's got redeeming moments. Most of it just makes you cringe. This is not a show that ever got to flat-out F territory, or we wouldn't have watched seven years of it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pierce was kidding. And it was subtle enough that I skimmed right past it reading this thread. Now I'm LMAO. And I'm just imagining that speech. It would have to be insanely creepy and hilarious.

I had this thought, too. That does to be their reasoning, though — it's only wrong if somebody get scattered into tiny fragments floating in icy vacuum. And the episode does not question this premise, so we have to think that's what the writer seriously thought.

Wow, Richilieu — did you write a Frakes Post so godawful vile that somebody DELETED it? If so, I'm terribly proud of you. You have given us all something to aspire to. :)

Whoa, but wait. Wasn't Martok FAKING, there? He's already a changeling, right? He should be bleeding goo! So he's found a way around it. The Founders have their ways.