I thought that was Jon Stern, but I checked the imdb page and he was nowhere to be found. I will have to check the actual credits on the HBO Go version.

I watched the finale again yesterday and while I struggled with watching the start of it where the most insipid scenes reside, I stuck through to the end and was glad I did. It is definitely not a great season, but it was far better than people are making it out to be.

BTW, how relieved was everyone when we found out that Trey did not plant the gun. I never believed he did or would have tried to, but as a plot point understood that is was a possibility the writers could have explored.

She was also on the same drugs. It has been established that Daniel gave drugs to her. And while we don't necessarily believe things Trey has to say, he did paint a picture of a girl who was comfortable without clothes. Couple that with just having had forced sex, makes it seem difficult for her to just get out of…

I hope you are wrong. That would be devastating to the audience.

I definitely see that as a possibility. Opposites attract, especially when at the core they are pretty similar people

agree. it really doesn't matter much, but it was clearly her dream

In real life, for sure. He has a weathered face and my guess is he is older than 35. Abagail Spencer, without looking it up looks 3-5 years younger.

date-raping? Get out of here.

I don't think Teddy was ever a 'bad' person, just a character that was written as slightly obnoxious in a way that stood out. I felt Amantha was also obnoxious early on in her dealings with just about everyone, but the audience empathized with her b/c of her devotion to Daniel so we all let it pass. Teddy had no such…

Jon Stern, well played. From an early age, that is how my father addressed people he loved. Male or female. I'm not sure if they looked at it as a jewish thing, but I clearly had that thought when I saw it.

I think they are done. Definitely. Both understand that they weren't right for each other.

Without a time jump, poor Jared will have aged 3-4 years in real life but stayed 16 or 17 on the show.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

How so? I don't think that is the case at all.

I like any scenes with Trey in them, so if that means he gets more screen time than great. Sean Bridgers plays this character so well (even if I can't stand Trey).

Why? I don't think that is obvious at all. There were close to 40 kids there and they only interviewed 7. We know about Daniel, Trey, Chris and George. That leaves 36 others who were in the area that could have come upon a naked girl who had already been raped and fought back but was strangled by an attacker. …

I don't thing it would be terrible writing at all, and Ray has said multiple times that we may never find out who actually did the crime. It would be depressing to me if Daniel was revealed to be the true killer, as I just don't see that as being a real outcome.