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@PaulKinsey:disqus Oh no, I agree with you! I'm just saying to a certain subset of guys, one that often crosses over with the gamer set, women are seen as a weird, treatening organism that must be solved like a series of puzzles. It's weird and wrong, but it's an extant attitude.

@PaulKinsey:disqus Oh no, I agree with you! I'm just saying to a certain subset of guys, one that often crosses over with the gamer set, women are seen as a weird, treatening organism that must be solved like a series of puzzles. It's weird and wrong, but it's an extant attitude.

@avclub-bc1744b6ddecde924eb7faa4211beaec:disqus Those are some really good observations. I think that perhaps Apt. 23 hasn't really hit a point of serious discussion, as it got snuck onto the schedule towards the end of the season and didn't have a lot of hype beyond vague positivity. I suspect we'll see a lot more…

@avclub-bc1744b6ddecde924eb7faa4211beaec:disqus Those are some really good observations. I think that perhaps Apt. 23 hasn't really hit a point of serious discussion, as it got snuck onto the schedule towards the end of the season and didn't have a lot of hype beyond vague positivity. I suspect we'll see a lot more…

It's not that it humanizes her, it's that it allows them to see them as less of athreat and more of a possibility, since girls that do guy things are inherintley less alien to a certain dude mindset.

It's not that it humanizes her, it's that it allows them to see them as less of athreat and more of a possibility, since girls that do guy things are inherintley less alien to a certain dude mindset.

@avclub-1881baeccb7399f3452cd7f37cdb2b29:disqus @Scrawler2:disqus @avclub-913d3a7404f98f0ee3766e12e78506fe:disqus Oh jesus christ people talking shit about Skyler. I feel like way, way too many people in Breaking Bad's audience think Walt is some kind of avatar for oppressed white men.

@avclub-1881baeccb7399f3452cd7f37cdb2b29:disqus @Scrawler2:disqus @avclub-913d3a7404f98f0ee3766e12e78506fe:disqus Oh jesus christ people talking shit about Skyler. I feel like way, way too many people in Breaking Bad's audience think Walt is some kind of avatar for oppressed white men.

@olivececile:disqus Watch it! It really developed into something good after Lizzy Caplan's arc.

@olivececile:disqus Watch it! It really developed into something good after Lizzy Caplan's arc.

No offense or anything, but I'm a guy. Am a feminist, though. Don't have time right now to get into my definition, but I'll try and put something up later.

No offense or anything, but I'm a guy. Am a feminist, though. Don't have time right now to get into my definition, but I'll try and put something up later.

21-year-old guy, 2nd-favorite new show this year (after Girls). Haven't watched Homeland yet, though.

21-year-old guy, 2nd-favorite new show this year (after Girls). Haven't watched Homeland yet, though.

Aaaaaand that about sums it up.

Aaaaaand that about sums it up.

Hell, isn't that (kinda) what Girls is? It's not as overblown, but a lot of the complaint against it is that the characters are too unlikeable.

Hell, isn't that (kinda) what Girls is? It's not as overblown, but a lot of the complaint against it is that the characters are too unlikeable.

Plus it's a lot more obviously satirical, which helps disconnect viewers.