Yeah, it's pure IRS Michael Stipe. "LET'S put OUR heads together and start a new country up. OUR father's father's fathers tried…"

I always thought she was criticising current *pop music* and celebrity culture, and its focus on self-love and conspicuous consumption that's pure 80's TV Evangelist to my eyes. Kayne and that thing he's with are just Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker selling narcissism instead of salvation.

I'm just confused that Cultural Marxism seems to even inflict the Punk Subculture. How exactly are the delineating themselves from mainstream culture anymore?

I was deeply into her music since I first saw 'Wuthering Heights' as a 7 year old, and connected emotionally with every song. Then 'The Sensual World' came out when I was 18, and I realised it simply wasn't very good, and my opinion hasn't changed 25 years later. Two great songs 'World' and 'Work', and a pile of…

You're assuming what we saw can't be handwaved away the moment the story requires it.

To be honest, I still don't understand the fuss over the show at all. It's just all tedious daytime soap opera with the promise that exciting shit is about to happen (but usually does offscreen) or will happen one day. Even down to splitting up the characters into little groups who stand around talking on standing…

I just imagine any Joker character being treated like Brainy Smurf and being throw out of the village onto his head.

On the other hand, it would have a ghoulish EC Comics inevitability to it, much like Johnny returning to eat Barbara in NOTLD.

Then who was phone?

I see tired mad max civilisation tropes that EVERY post-apocalyptic movie, show, game and comic eventually devolves into - c'mon, Terminus is going to be either that or Initially-Friendly Secret Cannibals - as a sign of shit, unimaginative writing.

Piecar and I discussed the Obvious Crazy Kid in the thread for S4E02, which means we've waited 12 episodes for the stupid characters to catch up on what was blindingly-obvious to us from the get-go, which hardly endears them to us.

The problem is everyone has a different sense of humour, and one person's 'comic relief' is another person's 'kill it with fire', for me in particular, snarky humour and pop culture references are wearing, and too often used as lazy shorthand by writers: "Oh, it's like the Matrix!"

Despite its success, the budget has been reduced each season, which is why Darabont left, thought to be why Glen Mazzara left, why the zombies rarely get closeups anymore, why we had The Farm as a consistent location and the prison as a standing set, why practical effects were reduced, and probably explains splitting…

We're nearing the end of Season 4, probably over halfway through its eventual run. Aside from The Simpsons, the majority of shows peak during Seasons 2-4. Seasons 6-7 are generally considered lesser, and anything beyond that is where the rot really sets in.

Remember when one of the reviewers on here argued that The Walking Dead actually needed a Xander Harris character, as if the way to improve a grim zombie show is to add a comic relief character who speaks in constant, instantly-dated pop culture references. As sucky as this show it, THAT would be suckier.

And yet everyone I know raved about it.

Exactly. I would have wanted to see my head bouncing down the stairs and GALLONS of blood. I'd have bragged about it at school for months.

Or sometimes you can see the attempt at an unearned emotional response for what it is: manipulative melodrama.

I was just happy it meant no more of their boring, boring characters. Kids can only do so much with their limited acting abilities at the best of times.

How you could not love the Guv melodramatically posing in front of a burning building like he's in a lame music video?