Eh, Ear-slug-tool-potato, sentient-invading-alien tomato.

Isn't that the entire plot to Futurama?

Borg Horta, end of the galaxy.

Hopefully we'll also partake in a great story of Frakes discovering some TNG-crew member's "inner light"

But wouldn't it still be a rip-off of Khan, with the brain-neck slugs? In an even more direct way?

Thinking back on it… did Voyager even account for the unimatrix? So they basically butchered the borg "rebels" because future-Janeway said "Nazis, I mean Borg, I hate these guys."?

Guinan drop-kicking a dude out of the Enterprise's hanger bay definitely would have taken the series in a different direction.

Double comment, meh.

I wouldn't say it's entirely overexposure- it's more about the kind of exposure. I never particularly found the Founders less menacing than they began, even at the height of their disease (Mrs. Odo always meant business). The Daleks in Dr. Who are still a pretty good enemy, afaik (just based on what I read on the…

Hey, I actually liked the armor plating! I mean, that's one element of tech enhancements almost ignored entirely in Trek up to that point- why not just beef up the hull of the ship in the first place? What are the borg going to do then, "adapt" to the physical armor?
It also has interesting connotations with…

IMO, yes Geordi has a much better build up towards his change of heart, but Beverly's case is kind of necessary in a single-episode storyline. How else are they going to get him on the ship? Have Geordi go blind and not realize his new friend is a Borg?

Lemur, that's why I said (might), but yeah the dilemna largely hinges on it working. Them using it all depends on that, but then there's no way to know until you try. So long as they use a Mac to upload, it's all good.

TBH, on a show like TNG, it's not about how much of a big bad or scary the ultimate enemy is. As hideous as that last sentence looks, what I mean is it's never really been about an ultimate villain, is it? The entire framing device is that humanity is worth a damn, but Picard seems to stake that on their own worth…

I don't think it's about fighting back being too hard- I think it's about them being stuck in a corner, seeing a seeming light at the end of the tunnel and wanting to take it. To them it is justified because the Cylons tried to kill them first. That doesn't sit with me, but I can understand that they might feel like…

Seriously though, I'm on the other side of the fence on this argument. Yeah, they went on to do more bad stuff. That's the whole point of the argument - do it and they (might) stop, don't do it and they WONT stop (unless you can defeat a seemingly indestructible enemy conventionally).

It also was a major plot point in DS9, with the infection of the Founders (via Odo unwittingly, I think?), except that time the plan went through.
In voyager it cropped up a couple times.

Yes. Though that reminds me, it has been a while since I had a Green River from Spuds…

I happen to be one of those carls! Minus the bald spot. (or adding the bald spot? how does hair work)

Seattle!
Getting the food-based police unit we deserve!

If only it were an accurate statement.