They were discussing how Nina totally left when their mother got really sick, essentially forcing Noah to care for her, potentially for years. Nina also knows (due to the note) that her mother "committed suicide" and probably knows Noah did it and that it's partially Nina's fault.

I agree. I enjoyed watching him make decisions about his future in season two. I don't know why I'm supposed to care so much about his past now.

My mom loooooves coconut oil. Wondering if she'll order a panic room for when she realizes it's not that great.

To be honest… I've defended this season to this point, but I am a little bummed at this revelation. I already figured Gunther wasn't real, Noah stabbed himself, and Noah's assisted suicide was a little more morally gray. However, the only way I would have found this season worthwhile was if Noah's mother actually…

They actually did that earlier this season. We saw the "campus rape culture" college debate dinner scene from Noah's perspective in 3.01 and then from Juliette's perspective in 3.03.

I think we're meant to see that the people ignoring Noah's issues are being insensitive. Maybe not with Alison, but certainly with Helen. Nina, Noah, and Vic were very clear with her that she has no idea what she's getting herself into with Noah and that she has no understanding of the depths of what he's been…

Sarah Treem has said that she has an idea for season four that would bring the four characters back together again… No idea wtf that would be. I guess Alison is pregnant from 3.05 and tries to pretend it's Cole's but it's actually Noah's.

I'm ready to be disappointed.

I worship Summer Camp. Altars, dancing, you name it.

Yes. I meant chilling in a warm sort of way.

I liked "Deadly Spa." So chilling.