i wondered if anyone out there was triple eww disgusted…

my shallow reading has always been that human barbarism is inextricably tied to the creation and appreciation of art. Pow!

Adaptation and Barton Fink aren't exactly canon-shattering entries either—still, I can't fault obvious choices provided they come with some interesting insight.

Fuck Jeff.
I'd rather watch a Britta show any day.

ah, true—though I'd never argue Common over Jay-Z.

Oh white guy. Sweet, sweet white guy. I'm torn.

damn, time to eat a dick I guess.

and i'm with you on soulja boy and fiddy, Titties. it's fair to say that Weezy blows them straight out the water.

with regard to star wars, my point is that they're similarly stylish and not all that substantive. i see similar value in each, but i feel lil wayne states his value as higher—the fact that we do have a more measured perspective on star wars was the point i was trying to make.

"when converting to hip hop, you have to up the ego factor by some 200%"

Yeah Good Point, I hear that, and I'm really not trying to offend.

@titties Yeah, I knew that my my blind spot for Wu Tang might be trouble. In my defense, I think you might have misread my post; I wasn't commenting on them one way or the other. I'll get back to you and, if appropriate, this motherfucker will recognize.

@Sommalian
I do gotta go with Talib Kweli; I think he's what true hip-hop talent and intelligence is. A safe answer is Tupac—he had all the swag of Wayne, plus political and social awareness. Public Enemy, NWA, Jay-Z, the old stuff from Eminem, the good stuff from Common—this is better hip-hop and better music than…

Yes yes, I'm a silly white man who likes good hip-hop. I also prefer political punk music to blink 182, and would rather watch the Wire than Miami Vice. Also, Michel Gondry and NPR and camping and shit. Lil Wayne is still weak.

I don't have much to say on Wu Tang, I just prefer stuff that's more politically potent and poetic than what lil' wayne has to offer.

Yeah, perhaps.

Yeah, I know, and all things considered he's sort of fun and he makes catchy pop music and he has his place. But what frustrates me is that when we prop Wayne up as the best there is, we're perpetuating an almost offensively reductive conception of hip-hop.

no for real though.
Show me the substantive, original, mind-blowing lil' wayne track where he stops talking about himself and makes a statement, I haven't heard it.

That's a shame. I'm intrigued by the thought of an adventure-oriented shooter on Wii, but the widespread praise does seem to largely focus on its nostalgia factor/total passibility.

I never really played the original.
Does it stand well enough on its own to justify itself?