Well, this is the precise point in this timeline of ours that the show, for the first time in my memory, basically said "Fuck it. Nothing will make sense from now on and you better get used to it!" Literally. Through Katarina's words. So, I guess I can see how this is sort of the fork in the road for its audience as…

Ok, I understand that Katarina remembers the old timeline in which the Messengers used their time machines and she will tell everyone around. It's a whole different story that her chief scientist now tells us that the same happened in the current timeline. That is some lazy replaying of events, after all…

The timeline just shifted. Nothing of what Ramse did before has ever happened and affected the timeline we are on right now. Only the people who took the compund could remember what he did.

After this episode, this show has one big problem, hurting its internal logic and that's Deacon. Several things are not making sense, here:
1. After the shifting timeline, Deacon perhaps should not be there in the first place.
2. He should not have spent eight months with Cassie. Because Cassie should not have travelled…

Standing in close proximity to the vials after setting them on fire was an unusually dumb move for these characters. I still don't understand how that didn't expose them to the virus. I guess they can always point back to this episode and say that's how they all became sleeper patient zeroes or explain some other part…

Wait…what epidemic? Now it's all about primaries and the end of time, isn't it? Nobody ever mentions the plague any more. That was so season 1!

I guess the reviewers on the AV Club just need to be constantly concerned with shows exhibiting symptoms of subliminally suggesting an agenda via symbolism and gender issues. Sparking some fake controversy for the page hits.

The criticism was not that the episode was slow, but that it repeats and retreads, as many a second episode of a season does. While at the same time it introduces new elements too fast and abruptly, pretty much destroying mythology overnight. That's pretty much opposites in the same episode. It was very weird to me,…

The idea is fine. It works for the character. The eight months difference could make for an interesting shift. The problem is simply that Amanda Schull is a lousy actress and she can't pull it off, no matter how much time she were given on the show.

Do not think that's true at all. This season had some of the worst and the best and the most whatever episodes of the entire run. It was a hot mess.

I suppose this was meant to show us the parallels between Juliette and Noah. Both wanted the people they (felt they) had to care for to die. The only difference (maybe?) is that Noah took action to make that happen while Juliette left as soon as it was clear (to most people, anyway) that Etienne was about to die.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Alison and Cole are DONE. This story needs no more telling. They told each other - and the audience - literally who they are. And then Helen did the same fucking thing. And then Noah did the same fucking thing through Gunther.

Facts? What facts? You still don't know what really happened, what Noah thinks he did, what he doesn't admit to himself, any of the details besides that he ran into the lake chased by his father. And not even that needs to be true. You decide what Noah did and didn't do, based on how much benefit of the doubt you…

Yeah, I guess it's two-fold. The writers know that many people will figure it out, but just in chance you have never seen a tv show or something, why not make a dramatic episode at the end and wow the people that are truly surprised by it.

It was mentioned in the first or second episode. It has been alluded to again and again. It became more obvious when he visited his sister with their dad in the house. Then there was the therapy session in which Noah explains it at length.
It did not come out of nowhere and it is not revisionist. It's possible that it…

Really like this show, probably more for the actual show right now then for the concept. A masterpiece it is not, though, I can't say.

What?? Oscar calls his wife a cunt, complains about not getting laid and serviced (in more ways than one) by her any more and he let his kid wallow in its shit. You call that a good guy?

It's not cynical, it's logical. Alison has cheated with Noah on Cole. Then with Oscar on Noah. Then with Cole on Noah.

I think she didn't think about any of that, at all. And later on, she thought, what the hell, then I just take Joanie to NJ for my half of the week.

It was not a throwaway line, it was several lines and also entire scenes brimming with the conflict from that backstory. But no, there is nothing that redeems what a dick Noah has become. Only helps to understand that he made all the wrong choices on how to proceed with his life from that point onwards.