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Sophist, if you're still kicking around this thread, I love the way you deepen my appreciation for the later seasons of Buffy (it's happened in previous weeks too). Unfortunately I don't think the heightened appreciation really makes me enjoy watching them any more than I did before.

Yeah, the idea of choosing Smile Time over, say, The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco when looking for a S5 Angel episode to knock is pretty inexplicable. Although I do agree about Gunn. That character never really worked. I mostly blame the actor, although the writers often gave him uncharacteristically bad…

I was never down on S7 Spike the way some people are (though I have other issues with S7), but you just totally sold me on that storyline, Sophist.

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What's so great about Angel is that just when you're starting to think it's taking itself way too seriously and may be headed downhill, you get something like Gunn describing S4 as a "turgid supernatural soap opera."

Expect to be disappointed. Then you'll be extra happy when the show picks up after the first 5-6 eps (or however many boring MOTWs there were to kick it off).

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SPOILER, sort of: Seems unlikely, since that storyline doesn't happen until season 5.

Actually, that clearly was the case. The judge says: "The application
for a stay of execution of the sentence of death, presented to the Chief Justice and referred by him to the court, is denied. The petition for a writ of certiorary is denied. The petitioner is remanded to the federal facility in Terre Haute,…

Wesley, mostly
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To be fair though, I think different denominations number them differently.

I dunno, I think it's less realistic that that character would try to name artworks in the first place than that he'd get them wrong. Definitely a little sketchy in the pilot (although I seem to remember that Toby gets it wrong too?) but much less in this case I think.

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At this point in the series it's possible not to have even noticed that he's a recurring character. This is the first episode where he really stands out iirc.

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As someone who recently went through this process, I can tell you that I hated Buffy-Wesley; he got on my nerves, really played to me as a campy knock-off of Giles without much character of his own. As a result I was disappointed to see him turn up in S1 of Angel (SPOILER: especially because I liked Glenn Quinn and…

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I vote for drowning.