Star Trek 80 - you mean for budgetary reasons a group of 24th century humans have to slum it suspiciously close to the studios of Paramount? Whilst showing off how space human they are by doing ridiculous things the laws of physics just don't allow for no matter where your mother squeezed you out?

Just to make Cattivo happy
Following on from the "Farscape did it more zanier" there's the episode"Won't Get Fooled Again" where similar sorts of things happen - Crichton realises that the reality he's in just doesn't add up (but for different reasons to Riker, here it's because nothing in the reality he's presented…

@Richelieu Jr From what I recall it was late eightees/early ninetees - so probably a year or so behind the US showing as was the custom of the time. It was about the time that BBC2 changed their logo from a "TWO" in red green and grey to a "2" in various animated situations.

Also I'm rooting for a variation of a cephalopod - modified tentacles would probably be as good as hands for tool building, they already have the intellectual problem solving capability and they could communicate by changing pigments in specific ways - like writing on their skin. They could use jet propulsion in the…

There are particular qualities that humans have which are excellent for adapting to a wide variety of environments but bipedalism is not the key one.

Pretty sure I watched basically the whole thing in order when it was first shown on BBC2 - along with DS9 when that came on. It was just what we watched at 6pm on Tuesday - no exceptions.

Fucking Star Trek - worse for teaching evolutionary canards than a whole legion of Alabamian biology textbooks.

What Darwin said in effect was that you have to be good at surviving in the place where you live. If you get to breed then you have input into the future genetic makeup of the biosphere. If the environment changes or the genetic makeup of your offspring varies how good they are at surviving will vary.

Ah, I see I am not alone.

I read this thread title as "I've Shatnered myself," now I just need to decide what that actually means.

@MrsPeel unfortunately The People's Democratic Republic of Happy Sunshine Funtimes Forever does not permit outsiders to view our official banners - unfortunately you lack the proper morality having been born outside of the teachings of Our Great And Benevolent Kind And Ever So Handsome Leader. Perhaps with the right…

Well I think it would be a pretty conservative estimate to say there are trillions of individuals in the Trek Universe and it wouldn't be more than a fraction of percent for you to actually have a billion psychopaths running about the galaxy.

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@Mrs Peel they also need to drink the resulting mixture - it'll heal what ails ya.

@alurin if there's one sure sign of a corrupt government it's one run by something that calls itself, "The People's Democratic Republic of Happy Sunshine Funtimes Forever". Not that I think that applies in this case but still.

Trek fundamentally did not understand the Theory of Evolution - this episode is no different; evolution is something that's just an inevitable sequence from bacterium to ape man to energy being.

I consider it an investment in Star Trek, not a waste of time.

But wouldn't the fabric of space-time be dangerously stretched in order to achieve that position?

No, but there is a planet of the rape-gangs which was never - fleshed - out.

He's saying Oscar's doing it for the love and Cookie's only doing it because he gets sponsored by Nabisco - it's the only way to feed his crippling cookie habit.