I figured someone said something somewhere — that was too egregious for this particular forum to pass up. Just couldn't find the spot.

Wasted opportunity. This show has forgotten all about the human vs vampire angle that was a pretty good thread in the early years. Ever since Silas came around there's no vampire hunters, no town council, no down-to-earth element trying to fight the Mystic Falls bunch just for being supernatural.

I tried to read through the whole thread for a conversation about this, but I couldn't find one — I apologize if I missed it and should head somewhere else (just point me at it).

Pro-vampire or pro-Gilbert? He does have that connection to her dad that could be keeping him from straight up murdering her. I wonder how he'd react to a non-Gilbert vampire, like Caroline or Damon.

Meh-ish episode overall for me. I feel like I'm still waiting for the season to kick into gear (much like what the review noted). At least Damon decided to do *something* with this episode (double points for it being (a) stupid and (b) going along with the bad guy to fulfill ultimately selfish goal).

Anybody else get an Uncle John vibe off of New Professor Evil? Maybe it's just that the actors look similar to me, I don't know — but I feel like this guy has the same sortof menace to him. Presumably human, presumably anti-vampire, in league with Elena's dad somehow.

Yay! Math validates, happy dance continues.

Has it been established that she can't shift? I keep wondering whether or not she can/will — have they actually addressed it at all?

That scene between Elijah and Hayley kinda creeped me out. The age difference between them was so apparent. Ugh.

I also kinda loved that they gave TVD a vague out for how the "Bourbon St" episode could make any kind of sense. Maybe Damon and Stefan visited New Orleans more than 8 months ago (since we have no sense of how the two shows match up, timeline-wise anymore). So at that point, there would still be witches doing magic…

I'm a bit surprised by the grade. This wasn't the most exciting episode, but it definitely wasn't in the realm of a D (see TVD "1912"). This was a good old-fashioned TVD info dump episode, where we get to put a whole bunch of pieces together to go deeper into the mythology. TVD had a good handle on this — the episode…

I wish they wouldn't use the two words interchangeably on both shows (or would just forget the sire bond thing altogether). It's just confusing.

If you're going to steal from Buffy, steal the good stuff.

I have loved how even when Matt gets a plotline he's still in almost all the scenes by himself or with guest stars. If he manages to resolve the whole thing without ever telling anyone that would be fantastic.

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I figured it was the same vision thing we've seen Damon, Katherine, and Rebekah do on TVD.

I think it was just a vampire thing, right? I don't think it kills werewolves or witches, but who knows at this point. Maybe they've forgotten that whole thing anyways. I had until it came up here.

I think it's supposed to kill vampires who use it (which is why Alaric had to take it away from Damon way back when before he stabbed Elijah), but I don't think that matters for Originals. Or at the very least Klaus, since he's always stabbing his siblings.

Vast improvement.

Oh, absolutely, I forgot about that one. That was fantastic. I loved both their faces when he was just done with them.