alurin- sorry, the fragmented nature of these posts left my meaning unclear. I was more talking about the themes I picked up on then about plotting, per se. You've got it right: Bill is constantly drawn to masculine power and money. He clearly wants to be part of a world where all of the trappings of wealth are his,…

Venkman- If I was the Decider, that's probably the way I would be pushing things right now. Let's focus on keeping 5-10 national daily newspapers alive for national journalism, and let cities and regions have their own weekly that keeps tabs on local issues and politicians. It's a sad, sad, thing, but most areas just…

I love a good newspaper, but blindly suggesting that people read the paper is almost a laughable suggestion right now. How many quality newspapers are left in the country? Probably 8-10 if we're lucky, right? The ones that were once grand have been whittled away to nothing, and the others haven't been worth reading in…

charcuterie?

Richelieu- Then didn't come across as *fake* in the movie. There are lots of people standing around still. But it's the same woman and guy over and over.

dan & alurin- if you don't buy the situation, I understand why the rest of the story doesn't work for you, but it doesn't strike me as ludicrous as you two paint it. I don't think it's just about her considering sex with another man, and his inability to deal with it. It's clear they are bored with each other and…

Bucky, I'm with you on Munich. It's the best thing Spielberg has done in years. I was recently catching up on the Spielberg's I've missed in recent years (Minority report, War of the Worlds, Muinch) and Munich was far and away the best one. It's a really good film.

Look, the discussion of whether The Shining is a poor adaptation or not is moot. Those discussions are only useful when the quality of the movie almost depends on the conclusion. In this case, someone who can't see that the Shining movie is fucking amazing has nothing to add to the conversation.

I don't find the ending happy or promising at all. I honestly thought it was statement about the human capacity for self-delusion. They haven' resolved or even faced their problems, but they're going to convince themselves that everything will be okay. Let's just fuck.

The Netflix version I got was the R-rated US version with digital people in the orgy scene. It was also presented as 'full-frame negative', as I mention in another post. Apparently a wide-screen version can be had, but I don't think its Region 1.

DVD Version
OK, I'll leave my comments on the content of the film for another area, but can any of you film-geeks help me out with the DVD presentation? It's presented 'full-frame negative' according to the DVD (and for the moment, we'll set aside whether this is conforming with Kubrick's wishes, as the DVD also…

AJR, you've terrified me. Young people in PDX are clamoring to hear Cotton-eyed Joe? I thought we'd successfully hidden that body.

C'mon, everyone knows that Listerine contains chemicals to make you throw up if you drink too much of it!

Dan, I should have known you'd be a TVZ fan. Thanks for bringing him into the mix!

I'm glad we've all come to a consensus about this.

ah, thanks for the memories, lex! I never had the equipment to do overlaps, but a definite part of the fun with mixtapes was to insert more than just songs, like you mention. Clips from shows, or old 45s or that random audiobook you found at a garage sale. It was almost a form of audio collage. And the planning ahead…

wait, what? it is? ah, fuck….

*both* albums, mbs?

Dear lord, Nathan, I'm completely with you. I just watched the clips, and I found *those* offensive and boring and poorly done. I can't imagine watching a whole film like that.

I've had a few plays produced, but I've never worked in the film industry. I get the impression, though, that developing a play is a much more interactive experience than when a director/studio buys a screenplay. For the initial production, playwrights are often involved through the entire process, with the director…