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Good point about the hand.

Book 4 basically starts there and the Iron Islands subplot kicks off and continues well into 5. We haven't seen any of this on the show yet.

Good point.

I think Theon's change in attitude was too sudden, but nitpicking aside, I liked that moment too. Substituting Sansa for Jeyne made their leap into the snow that much sweeter. I've always liked Theon and think Alfie Allen's done a really great job throughout the show.

Iron Islands.

1) Ghost's absence is so obvious that combined with Mel's last minute return to the Wall, I can only hope they're saving him for a "surprise" next season, that might have been spoiled for newbies if he was present. They really want viewers to believe Jon is dead, it would seem.
2) I can't see how he wouldn't. Ramsay's

But they also weren't part of the 3-headed dragon prophecy.

I actually have and think that was one of the better depictions of rape in film. But OK.

It actually does, because marital rape is surprisingly a thing!

Nobody's arguing that Theon isn't a complex character, but getting tortured after you pillage your home, kill the guy who taught you how to fight, and kill 2 random kids versus getting raped because you happened to agree (I'm using that term lightly based on Littlefinger's control over Sansa) to marry a guy you didn't

Eh, a little bit of the ol' wedding night rape, y'know how it was back in the day.

Pycelle ain't Pycelle if he ain't skeezin' it up.

OK. I mean I'm hurting the "cause", so I should just stop.

Bang bang.

You totally are, but deny that however necessary.

I can't be the only person who started laughing when Theon randomly tossed Myranda over that wall.

Well I'm amazed that people feel the need to play down how horrible rape is. Theon has suffered, but so has Sansa. It's not a torture porn contest.

I think Joffrey's still alive too. And Oberyn. And Lady the wolf.

I'm with you on this, though people understandably have a lot of gripes about the episode. Everything that I expected to go down did. My issue is more with what was invented.

Fair points on all accounts.