"What's goin' down, Mr. Peterson?"
"My butt on that stool."

"There never was a "grunge."" Well, you can tell that to Tom Hazelmyer when he described Mudhoney as 'grunge' for that Dope, Guns, etc. single.

" inspiring the “grunge” sound despite never, to anyone’s reckoning, actually playing “grunge” music."

'Last Side of Town pt. 2' by Thee Speaking Canaries is my favorite ever. And, of course, 'Don, Aman' by Slint.

I was wondering when somebody was going to mention this.

First saw this as a VHS boot in the early 90s. Blew me away and really introduced me to the fact that there was all this cinema out there that was great and weird but hidden. Such a great movie. Captain Captain!

When Siskel & Ebert reviewed this movie when I was 8 years old they showed the 'children into sausage' clip. It was the scariest thing I had ever seen in my life.

I was surprised at how many of my personal, localized punk rock boxes it checked. Including finishing college (thankfully) and dead best friends (unfortunately). It's certainly not a great movie but I did see myself in it… fuck, just the scene where they  are in late junior high/early HS and they are about to play D&D…

I thought that was 'Meet Joe Black'?

EMF was the high school girls' Jesus Jones. People forget about Jesus Jones; before it was officially determined that Nirvana would be the blueprint for the next 5 years many thought Jesus Jones' blend of something and something else was clearly going to lead the way.

"haha, its like you're HipsterDbag's angry older brother who lived in the basement and had a band and Slayer posters on the wall"

"Celtic Frost can't be pigeonholed into one movement; shit they started several of their own." Happenstance after the fact. In '86, ask Tom G and he would have said thrash or perhaps given a Lars Ulrich-type answer equating "but we're soo much more than that." I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm a fan. People are…

"Ned’s Atomic Dustbin was more than an also-ran of the early alternative era" No they weren't. Though I recall a couple of sorority sisters who liked them.

"Celtic Frost weren't really thrash" - I can't explain how revisionist that statement is.

Also, they distorted the bass, tuned down, blah blah. They sort invented a lot of 'heaviness tricks' with that album. And its success defined how 'Among the Living' was going to sound in comparison to their more friendly LPs that came before.

I said it elsewhere: Also, to really show the artistic reach of thrash, I think the list should have included Celtic Frost's 'Into the Pandemonium' and Voivod's 'Killing Technology'.

It's forgotten now, but in many places the metal kids were late-comers to thrash. I was a punk kid but *loved* Metallica/Slayer/etc. The metal kids in my town hated them, thought it was a bunch of noise. They like Crue and Maiden.

For a minute there, upon initial release, that SOD album was the most brutal thing ever.

It was a weird time. You listen now, Possessed sound more like a hardcore band than the Crumbsuckers. Yet, at the time, Crumsuckers were seen as 'crossover' leaning towards punk and Possessed were trve metal.

Really? I thought Menace was much more raw, much more 'first take'.