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Probably exactly what Rick did- beat the shit out of him and tell him he'd get killed if he tried anything. The only reason he lived is because Rick tried to let him go peacefully, letting him get close enough that Rick couldn't just shoot him.

But at the end of the day, Rick didn't kill him- he probably would have if Deanna hadn't shown up, but there was still nothing really stopping him from choking Pete to death. He just beat the shit out of him, and presumably he's kicked out of Jessie's house. Honestly, that seems like a completely reasonable

Oh yeah, the source material is definitely part of the problem, but they have demonstrated they're willing to diverge from it pretty significantly, so I don't think that exempts it.
I guess it's partially about understanding the nature of the problem. It's not just that black characters are more likely to get killed

Good lord, you don't think you're splitting hairs at this point? There's no reason Noah had to die this episode and Eugene didn't. They're both minor characters with about the same amount of potential. Same for Abraham dying instead of Tyreese. Hell, three seasons ago they could have gone for developing T-Dog instead

Why not? Why does it make sense to give black characters the short end of the stick?

No. Maybe Michonne, maybe Jessie is actually going to become a long-term character. But I'd put my money on Michonne.

Like, normally I wouldn't even care, but it's just been so obvious lately that it seems silly not to bring it up.

I think that's kind of an odd reading of the show. All but a few of these characters are expendable. Of the "expendable" characters, only a handful are black, but they die at a super disproportionate rate. The only reason there have been more white deaths overall is the fact that there are so few black characters. And

I think the pattern is pretty ridiculously obvious, but if you don't see it, more power to you.

Probably, yeah. They seem to be basically making Sasha what Andrea is in the comic. I seriously doubt she's going crazy.

Racist? I dunno. Exhibiting a racial bias? Absolutely.
I'm not even "outraged". I just would rather they didn't treat black characters as way more expendable than anybody else.

Dude, the show is mostly white people, it makes complete sense they would die at about that ratio. And I don't mind if they kill off a couple black characters, but they've literally killed half the black cast this season. You can't seriously tell me that's not weird.

Not gonna lie, though, this show really isn't doing great with the whole "killing all the black characters" pattern. We've gone from like 6 to 3, and one of those characters is the most unlikable on the whole show.

I loved Noah and was really sad to see him go, but that wasn't too gratuitous for me. TWD is a gory ass show, and nothing is going to top the kind of gore we got in season 2. Certainly it was no worse than Hershel's beheading. If you don't go into this show knowing that or worse could happen to almost every character,

I think you can make an argument that Gabriel is more projecting his own actions onto the group. Nothing they've done was half as cruel as what he did, it was just more direct. He just can't face his own actions.
I also think Maggie was probably conflicted. Maybe she thinks Gabriel is kinda right, or at least there's

That's a good point. I'm sure she received threats like that on a daily basis. Puts an interesting spin on it.

Yeah, that's true. That scene was particularly weird when you think about it. I get why it's in there, it's just a poor setup.

Okay. But even then, gay marriage has like 42% disapproval in Virginia, so the idea that Aaron and Eric put up with a lot of "well-meaning" homophobia seems pretty believable.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Are they in Virginia?

That's a really good way of reading it. It makes me think about the last shot. Is he leaning against the wall because he's willing to appreciate the security it provides, or is he listening to the zombie banging against it so he doesn't forget what his real priorities are?