All right, then.  Get out.

I need to say as a book reader that you're wrong about Martin's execution and right (but only on a structual level) about the show's execution of these events.  The gap between the two probably (indeed, almost certainly) lies in that there really isn't a direct way to access the characters' inner lives on screen…

Goddamn right.

Exactly: The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but the road to heaven is paved with good deeds.

Yeah, one thing you gotta give the Young Wolf is that, militarily, he was a genius.  Kid never lost a single engagement.  That's some Alexander the Great level shit. His father would have been proud to see that.

Oh my god that's so true, man.  Damn.

Where was the Throne of Blood reference?  I should have noticed that!

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Bolton you piece of fucking shit how could you fucking do that

Motherfuck me, man.  I got the vapors reading the chapter years ago, got devastated, grieved, finished the available books, moved on.  Then as this episode built toward it, I just felt all these weird PTSD-like feelings, all this anxiety.  Then it hit, and hit like a ton of bricks, and watching a beautiful, pregnant…

@avclub-500e75a036dc2d7d2fec5da1b71d36cc:disqus Valid points all.

They're all going to continue to make money no matter what.  As a black guy I have complicated feelings about all this, though.  Because I hate the guy's bullshit as much as anyone, but I can see a racial double standard in place even right now.  People are on here saying shit like, "He's more dangerous than a drug…

I think the more important question is how does Charlie Sheen or Mel Gibson get away with his bullshit, but Chris Brown doesn't.  Because let's face it: Chris Brown hasn't gotten away with shit.  As much as we're acting like he has, the fact remains that we hate the motherfucker.  He will never be forgiven.  Even now…

Before the Empire.

@LurkyMcLurkerson:disqus Wow, I had no idea he admitted to them.

@avclub-85d8ce590ad8981ca2c8286f79f59954:disqus I can read A Song of Ice and Fire and find it to be grand, moving high fantasy.  But if I find out tomorrow that George R. R. Martin is into underaged girls, I'd never be able to view the Sansa chapters in the same way again while still feeling all the semiotically…

Hey I'm grump

As a former English lit student, I entirely sympathize with the impulse to make that statement, @avclub-85d8ce590ad8981ca2c8286f79f59954:disqus .  And when I'm criticizing a piece of art, I can do it.  But when I'm experiencing that art, I wonder how such separation is possible on a practical level; it's like…

That scene still haunts me.  I was turned on and nauseous at the same time.  I have little else to say about it because frankly my brain still hasn't quite processed it about a year later.

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