JP did a pretty good job summing up what I'm trying to say.

You said the show placed the onus of stopping rapes on the victims and that it was bad that they did this. In the universe of the show based on what was happening (incompetent cops combined with the specific type of rapist), what else could they do besides have the Take Bake The Night volunteers push safety while…

In terms of how you mischaracterized the show's intentions with this type of serious issue, yes, you did. Now how about you act a lil' less trollish and actually discuss what I said?

You're still going way overboard, @avclub-dc10fce584f2cdf09d6690e0f2883227:disqus

I'm not so sure about that.

I like the idea of Moe's involvement and why he does it, but the dialogue between them that establishes the prison experiment is WAAAAAAYYYYY too heavy handed.  Show the photo, show how Mercer is treating him, but don't fucking have Mercer pointedly address Moe as "prisoner," for crying out loud.

I've have to re-watch the episode to see how overt it was, but it seemed like everyone online took it that way when "Lord of the Pi's" aired, and I know I did.  Similarly, the reaction to the "How did Mercer go from Tijuana to Neptune and back without you noticing?" scene was overwhelmingly confusion because the show…

At the end of "Lord Of The Pi’s," no.  A few episodes later, yes, for some reason that's never explained.

Moe replaced Cera's character when he couldn't come back for S3.

Rowan not bringing up the plausibility of the Mercer alibi twist kinda surprised me, so I guess I'll bring it up here.

I sort of didn't mind the very end, if just because, in this specific case, it's plausible. Regina and Angelo were married, have a daughter together, and sort of rekindled things recently. They'd be able to get away with it easily.

It's a little more complicated than that.  The show had always been renewed last minute, keeping the actors tied up from pursuing work elsewhere during pilot season if the show was going to be cancelled.  With ratings up, Whedon (rightfully, IMO) felt that he should get the renewal earlier.  It somehow got heated to…

Rowan, do you mean "Destiny" (with the Rutherford Sirk character, who had shown up at the end of S4)?

Jeff Bell was technically the showrunner from whatever the hell happened with David Simkins in S4 through the end, right?  I've generally liked his work, and he comes off as a really likeable detail-oriented perfectionist in the Angel & Alias DVD extras.

Yeah, S3 definitely has flaws, but it's much, much better on DVD, and being away from the outside forces like the Aerie Girls is part of that.

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Between the Aerie Girls comment above and the "Logan meets Logan" stunt-casting of Matt Czuchry it's probably worth discussing the issues with the move to CW this week.

The Aerie Girls.  They were throw things at your TV level bad.

It probably should've been addressed more specifically, but that was kind of the point, wasn't it?  Veronica felt obligated to write about it because the quantity made it sketchy.

The product placement (in fairness, did she ever actually give a manufacturer/make/model?) was even worse than that episode of Nip/Tuck where Christian says the blind chick can listen to THE XM RADIO (cue zoom in on the radio) or the Alias where Sydney screams "F-150!" when she directs Vaughn to the right vehicle to…