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I think this is what people miss. Dark stories can work with those characters but there's only so much you can "darken" (for lack of a better term) before they just become entirely different characters altogether. This is exactly why BvS and MoS are essentially failures at their core.

There's definitely a generation of creators who tried far too hard to emulate those two books.

I kind of disagree. A creator's later work can definitely change the perception of earlier work. What you take away from the book away from the book initially can easily be altered due to the more you find out about what the creator's overall artistic intent is given more evidence. This definitely happened to me

Kevin Smith's the one who finally killed off Karen. Miller turned her into a junkie who gave up Matt's identity that eventually went to Kingpin (maybe Miller gave her AIDS too but I'm a little fuzzy on that).

THEY'RE ALL GOOD!

I think "ignored" would probably be most accurate. I mean, she disappears for long stretches of New Mutants and isn't really present during some of their most well known storylines. And those were written by the guy who created her. It also doesn't help that her powers sort of involve her not even being around.

Okay, but it still involved him blowing up. NWT is hitting people when she's in her blast field.

You are too close to this. Look at how most YA sci-fi films/books today are (Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner) and New Muntants ends up resembling those thematically a lot.

This was awhile back during the Academy X days, so right after Morrison's New X-Mem run. So, a little over a decade old, I guess.

Except doesn't Nitro literally blow up? In Deadpool she's actually creating a blast field and then directs herself towards something or someone.

There was some website doing something along the lines of "20 most underused X-Men" and listed NTW, which annoyed me a great deal for obvious reasons.

…like most YA sci-fi these days.

"Every comic is someone's first" usually translated into every line of dialogue in some way being expository.

Also, no one is particularly interested in seeing Karma in a film.

*Joe Keatinge.

Energy yes, but he was working within the most popular brand name in comics at the time. You can say this about Lee MacFarlane too, they brought a ton of energy to comics but they also came around at the exact right time to do what they did.

Mostly because more talented people came along to flesh out his ideas fully, which he has always been supportive towards.

Man, she would have ruined you…and bargained your soul.

I watched Post-Grad for Michael Keaton.

In fairness, this isn't an MCU movie.