I feel like Philip kind of lied to Elizabeth about his kid. He made it seem like Gabriel had recently told him about his son, but he's known about him since Irina told him, over a year ago.

I know I'm way late to the comment party, so no one will see this, but it seems like this season, and this episode in particular, a lot of time is being spent in bathrooms. I feel like they just built the Jennings' bathroom set and want to show off a little.

I don't know that this episode took any steps toward making Michael more compelling. Yes, they had a more comfortable relationship, because they were together longer. There's nothing about Rafael that suggests he won't one day know Jane's favorite sandwich and author, and he seems to care enough to learn.

Neither I nor anybody else on this discussion thread said that there was anything wrong with a Jewish village.

I enjoy Charles's funny quirk of subconsciously dressing like the bad guys around him. Last season he had the same sweater as a pedophile, didn't he?

Also a line we credit to Tina Fey.

My point was, in that list of things, statuatory rape would be the one I find most repugnant.

He does the same thing with Martha.

Remember when sitcoms had plot holes and jumps of logic all the time, and we just watched them anyway? I know there are lots, but the specific example from my childhood would be Boy Meets World.

Yeah, but the intent was different. She wants to recruit Paige and tell her the truth about herself. That's very different than Philip using Kimberly to get access to her father's office.

Elizabeth wasn't lying in that scene; she wanted to tell Paige something real about her life. She was just revealing part of the truth.

It seems like Philip is much more likely to use his actual life in his spycraft than Elizabeth. He does it all the time, but we've only seen her do that once, with the Navy guy.

It does have her fingerprints on it…

I think I'm mentally protecting myself from this Philip/Kimberly grossness by believing that the show wouldn't dare cross that line. I mean, for all of the horrifying things we've seen these characters do, that one seems weirdly untouchable. It would be just impossible to sell Philip as a convincing protagonist of…

I don't know. I think that might have been a red herring in the trailer. I think she's talking about the kid thing again.

I don't know *that* much about smoking weed, but did P&E get high suspiciously quickly in that scene?

An idle thought: Stan without Nina is less interesting to me. I don't really care about his journey as much as I do about hers.

Right? I can't remember the last time I was this excited for an episode of televison.

For over a year, I've watched every episode of Once and thought, "man, this show is terrible, but I can somehow still watch it." Last night, I was done within the first two minutes. I mean, that was some seriously terrible acting, writing, and existing.

I enjoy the cooking aspect of Chopped, but I hate the judging. Maybe it's bad editing but the judges come off as so inconsistent. It really seems like they're judging more on who they like than whose food they like.