It's not a joke. You haven't realized this before? All those songs have the same melody.

Both of the above songs predate the ABC song, and either way, they are simply nursery rhymes attached to a preexisting melody, so saying they are "ripoffs" is dumb.

Both of the above songs predate the ABC song, and either way, they are simply nursery rhymes attached to a preexisting melody, so saying they are "ripoffs" is dumb.

What are you talking about with the dominant 7th chord? As long as there has been a concept of functional harmony, there has been the dominant 7th chord. We're talking like 600 years here. You have to go back to the middle ages to find music that doesn't use this chord.

What are you talking about with the dominant 7th chord? As long as there has been a concept of functional harmony, there has been the dominant 7th chord. We're talking like 600 years here. You have to go back to the middle ages to find music that doesn't use this chord.

I assume you're joking and actually realize "Twinkle" and "Black Sheep" have the same melody?

I assume you're joking and actually realize "Twinkle" and "Black Sheep" have the same melody?

This kind of thing really annoys me. Why should they have to ask for permission to use 4 notes, a single short phrase? Jeff Lynne didn't invent that phrase, it's been used thousands of times in western music. Why does he get to own it now? Because he used it in a popular song in the last 50 years?

This kind of thing really annoys me. Why should they have to ask for permission to use 4 notes, a single short phrase? Jeff Lynne didn't invent that phrase, it's been used thousands of times in western music. Why does he get to own it now? Because he used it in a popular song in the last 50 years?

Same key and tempo. Not the same rhythm or chord progression though.

Same key and tempo. Not the same rhythm or chord progression though.

I actually completely buy this scene, even divorced from context (I haven't seen the movie). When you mention an argument that they should have, but don't, before Greenberg storms out, what would that argument entail? He's not having a rational reaction. He's completely freaked out by her story. Him saying it's the…

I actually completely buy this scene, even divorced from context (I haven't seen the movie). When you mention an argument that they should have, but don't, before Greenberg storms out, what would that argument entail? He's not having a rational reaction. He's completely freaked out by her story. Him saying it's the…

I know we did. It was called "What do you think?" and we thought we needed to put a cello on it when we recorded. *shivers*

I know we did. It was called "What do you think?" and we thought we needed to put a cello on it when we recorded. *shivers*

before determining that A] I couldn't recall and B] they probably did take place in both

before determining that A] I couldn't recall and B] they probably did take place in both

No one knows. You can't dust for vomit.

No one knows. You can't dust for vomit.

This is accurate. The word had only ever previously been used sarcastically, e.g. "Look at that handsome fella! I'm concerned about his odor."