@avclub-f56766ef62b1d6867e6ace4bfc82c82e:disqus Neither of the teams have felt all-star lead to me. The women's team started with Sabrina as the leader, with Kim gently nudging her aside. It's even less so with the men. You had the lawyer, who was overthrown by Colton, then after that the men had no leader at all. You…

Okay. She does seems a decent enough person. I certainly wont't be upset if she wins. I'd just kind of forgotten about her for the last month, as she hasn't really done much of anything since the first tribal shuffle. And having the the thing that brought her back in to the spotlight being needlessly picking a fight…

Leif was pretty dumb to telling the whatisname that he was getting voted off next, but it would take supernatural powers to predict that it would lead to your team unanimously voting to go to tribal council. Iwas partly Leif's fault for voting for it, but guy on the show did, so there is that.

@avclub-f56766ef62b1d6867e6ace4bfc82c82e:disqus Sabrina acted poorly, but Troy had already gone off the handle long before that. He was picking fights as soon as he got back from tribal. She didn't cause anything. She just joined in the ugliness.

It wouldn't have been a good play. Flushing an idol is good when you have security of numbers. You can afford to give someone up that week. Troy hoped to have just enough people to pull of what he wanted to do. If her gave up an ally to flush the idol, he would have had to poach yet another person from the women's…

Keep in mind that Mike was not Troy's friend at all, let alone  a good one. He was all too happy to get rid of him.

The big difference between Kim and Rob's last season is that Rob had his position given to him on a platter at the beginning, while Kim was a fresh new player who went mostly unnoticed in the early weeks.

@JudgeReinhold:disqus That's true. I'm really just arguing that Troy doesn't deserve a win, not that it is impossible. Of course, a passive player who has a major meltdown at the end has probably poisoned the jury now. Passive player win by making it to the end and having nobody hate them. That could have been Troy…

What made this really entertaining is that it's such a backwards analogy. Kim was the one who provided him the the nice house (alliance) that she built, and then cast him aside when he was past his sell-by date. Troy is really just a used-up trophy wife.

Weren't the last two seasons the one where there were two celebrities almost surrounded entirely by lambs? The only move that happened at all in either of the last two seasons was Cochran making his leap, and that didn't really go anywhere.

If the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I'm guessing her family members had to ask a neighbor to letter out their message.

Just curious, why do you prefer Sabrina? What has she really done to earn a win. She was given the leadership position in her group early on, but she didn't seem to know what to do with it and just let Kim have it.

On Tarzan being batshit, he was the only guy, aside from Colton, who got super excited about taking his own team to tribal. Also, during the shuffle, he was the guy talking about how pure-hearted Alicia was while Christina was an evil snake. I could go  on, but I don't feel the need. There is nothing baffling about an…

The @avclub-9b3eca27b368c5a2a7efc94dc5c4afc5:disqus is right. Sabrina is just not being smart at all. Troy is being dumb, but that's no reason to get down in the mud with him.

@avclub-b88b3ac1b5fd940f9b4970631eb13cc2:disqus It's possible. Keep in mind though, that Tarzan also voted for Jay last week. That makes it a lot more likely that he is taking orders from Kim.

@avclub-b88b3ac1b5fd940f9b4970631eb13cc2:disqus Keep in mind that Troy spent so much of the episode being the crazy ranty guy that it made it hard to get behind him. Then he outlined his blindside plan at the Tribal, just to give Kim the chance to play her idol if she had been less confident.

@avclub-a1967e6de4ca99fb2635d94b99453928:disqus Yes, it highlights how Troyzan went so wrong this episode. He looked so unstable next to Kim it would be hard to jump to his side even if it was clearly in you ration best interest.

Chelsea is the one that was angry at the men for being unchivalrous and not helping the women win during the early episodes as well. She has some very, shall we say, traditional opinions on gender.

I don't remember him helping with Colton, but that was a while back, so I'll accept that. I don't really accept letting Kim run things because he thought he was on the inside though. That's the thinking of every passive player ever.

Tarzan voted for Jay last week. Two weeks in a row we have been robbed of any scenes showing what is going on there, but it looks like Kim has a goat in her pocket.