No, because counter-arguments based on reverse sexism are stupid and if you find yourself tempted to make one you should probably just not.

Of course your complaint is about Girls rather than Seinfeld - it would be, wouldn't it, since you're a misogynist.

@avclub-07b683aaf8286790f471dc144f596a33:disqus I see hot guys with girls of Hannah's body type all the time. I think you're just thinking of a cliche.

Yes, you're completely right of course. Just as I feel that Jerry Seinfeld, George, and Kramer could never have landed the women they dated, the guy from King of Queens was way too fat for his wife, and Woody Allen was an ugly old troll who apparently dated a constant stream of beautiful young women. I could go on ad…

I wouldn't mind King of Queens if that fat dude was 97% more attractive. I wouldn't mind Seinfeld if Jerry, George, and Kramer had each been 700% more attractive than they actually are. I wouldn't mind Woody Allen's movies if he were 1500% more attractive and even remotely goodlooking enough for the female co-stars he…

@avclub-f8523a7e392b7ab306239f511fd75280:disqus So that means almost every comedic movie and television show with an ugly male star and beautiful female co-star is "masturbatory"? Every Woody Allen movie is masturbatory? Ever Judd Apatow movie is masturbatory? King of Queens was masturbatory? Seinfeld was…

It's not meant to have an impact, that's the whole point. It's meant to be blunt and frank and honest and kind of funny. It's "hey, this is what average people look like when they're getting dressed after having sex…kind of awkward and not at all sexy." The fact that it HAS to mean something is so revealing. Female…

Except the nudity is intended to be funny. Not "HA HA I MADE A JOKE" funny, but frank and honest and casual about what real people look like. It's not meant to be shocking or brave or sexy. I'm having so much trouble understanding peoples' reaction to it unless I account for misogyny.

@marksoc Yeah except the problem is no one gives an actual fuck.

That's embarrassing for you.

Girls is obviously supposed to have a sense of realism. Displaying the very realistic, average body of the female lead certainly fits with that, especially since she is constantly having sex. What are they supposed to do, artfully drape her in a cowl in every shot? Keeping in mind that if they hid her body away like…

You really think there's no self-awareness there? You would have to be pretty imperceptive to miss it. This entire episode was basically about Hannah's self-indulgence, her privilege, her whininess, and how off-putting it was to someone like Joshua.

Because women were put on this earth to give men boners, and when the female body is not pleasing to a man it should be hidden away in shame. Duh. Even an average body should be kept out of sight, or did you not get the latest MRA newsletter?

@avclub-d0cf409eb912cc0cc950b41b6d892d07:disqus  I don't think she's bragging, nor do I think the nudity is intended to be "shocking" or "brave." It's there because it's realistic. People are often naked and people have (mostly) ugly bodies. It feels honest to me but it doesn't feel pretentious.

Wow, so I've been reading through the comments and I think I actually hate men now.