Space Ghost.

I get that misogyny appears in a non-rap context too and that there may exist a double standard, but bands like Limp Bizkit were run out of town years ago for that kind of rape-rock shit and any of those other artists have been quarantined to their juggalo retard corner of the universe and if more reputable bands…

Edit: mis-post.

So what's the end game for Kanye "pretending" to be a vile person? When he comes up with clunker lines like "Swag-hili" or "I'd give anything for a blonde dyke" does he know it's bad? Do you really think that every negative thing about Kanye is surrounded in quotation marks while all the positive things are legit? I…

Oh, OK. Well if she's cool with it, I can stop pretending. OK, everyone, who are your top 5 cunty bitches you would like to hate fuck the most?

Starky Line, if the "Swag-hili" line is considered a solid punchline in your book, then maybe we're simply two very different people. But your argument seems to come down to "He's more thoughtful than brainless pop rap" which is faint praise. Truth is, there are guys who flaunt their amorality all the time and it can…

Really? Pussy? I think Kanye's lyrics are hateful to women (not even an opinion really, just fact) and I'm a pussy for that? And it means I listen to lame "chick" music? We can't all be sycophantic Kanye fans looking for any excuse possible to be able to shrug past Kanye's horrifying content. Maybe if he were even a…

Good point, Space Ghost. I guess that's why I never listen to Buckcherry. Please inform me what other bands have lyrics about needing sweet and sour sauce for when they go down on an Asian women and I will happily lump them in the "people who suck and whose music I would likely benefit from avoiding" list.

You nailed it.

Yeah, that seems to be the party line on Kanye as far as critics go and it's a useful tool when you're trying to come up with reasons for tolerating the ugly misogyny ofhis words, but then again, this is the guy who says he speaks "swag-hili" and we're supposed to let that pass because he makes neat beats? Kanye's an…

So they have it ranked a little high. No biggie. The range from a B to and A- isn't that criminal.

That's it. So much cognitive dissonance between the production and the lyrics.

Yeah, Stereogum wasn't even this bad.

Any praise of Kanye West as an artist absolutely falls apart when you start analyzing his lyrics.

I love 808s - it's really the only Kanye album that I feel so strongly positive about - but "Pinocchio Story" is undeniably bad. Mostly because Kanye is a bad lyrcist, something that persists to this day.

What's the most fun part of Yeezus, the subtle misogyny or the blatant misogyny?

5000 hours to make the music, 30 seconds to come up with lyrics.

Yes.

Yeah, I always liked Reiner's lounge lizard monologue too. Could never really understand what people thought was so bad about it.

This. All of this.