Pierce- I feel like what you're saying is just a matter of how you view Stefan because I don't see any evidence on the show that indicates that he just didn't want to stand up to Elena. I think he respected her decisions because he actually respected her. Damon always said that he made the bad (ie selfish) reasons to…

Except one of the major differences between Elena and Stefan's relationship and Damon and Elena's relationship was that Stefan respected her decisions, while Damon often (always) disregarded them (as stated in 3x14 and why Elena ended up dying in the s3 finale). The only time Stefan questioned Elena's decisions was…

Being selfless is a wonderful trait of Bonnie's but the fact that all of her relationships have been so completely one-sided in this entire show has taken all the resonance out of her death for me. How did she receive dignity in death if she spent the whole episode trying to protect Caroline and Elena from it? She…

If Bonnie had been able to kill the witches on her own and then regained her normal "judgy" personality, the guilt and crisis of conscience that came from killing her brethren and defying her nature would have developed her character tenfold!!! Instead they have Caroline kill them in order to further a pointless…

Exactly. I'm okay with her going a bit crazy as long as it ends with the rest of the characters kneeling at her feet. At least Damon took back his words with his actions (being genuinely concerned in finding her on the island) in the following episode.

So Damon saying, "I don't want you to be cured" was a sire command, right? 95% sure Elena's going to have a change of heart about this cure in the next episode.

Yeah, most definitely :/ This love triangle is just becoming more and more messy with this sire bond and it's also making the triangle become the bane of the show. It feels as if everyone is regressing as character because of it and it's really frustrating.

"Stefan knows Elena loves Damon, and it has nothing to do with the sire bond"

Just the final season. Season 5 also had gaping plot holes.

Just the final season. Season 5 also had gaping plot holes.

I actually yelled in glee when I saw the F. Bless you!!

I actually yelled in glee when I saw the F. Bless you!!

I'm sorry but when Carol told Tyler he was just like his father with a proud look in her eyes, I was dumbfounded. Wasn't he the dad that regularly beat the shit out of his son and tried to get him to fight with other guys? The selective memory on the show astounds me. That said, Tyler becomes the first character to…

I'm sorry but when Carol told Tyler he was just like his father with a proud look in her eyes, I was dumbfounded. Wasn't he the dad that regularly beat the shit out of his son and tried to get him to fight with other guys? The selective memory on the show astounds me. That said, Tyler becomes the first character to…

Damon throughout the course of the show is definitely doing more selfless acts, but let's not pretend that anything beween 1864 and S1 that shows selflessness on Stefan's behalf is not a complete retcon of Damon's personality. Also, it's irritating when people say that Stefan advertises his selflessness. People show…

Damon throughout the course of the show is definitely doing more selfless acts, but let's not pretend that anything beween 1864 and S1 that shows selflessness on Stefan's behalf is not a complete retcon of Damon's personality. Also, it's irritating when people say that Stefan advertises his selflessness. People show…

Damon tends to go with self-flagellation too though. The amount of times he says some version of that "I'm the bad brother that kills people without remorse" makes me want to jump off a cliff! Damon willingly occupies that role to a) justify his actions and b) for the audience to pity him (because we all know that…

Damon tends to go with self-flagellation too though. The amount of times he says some version of that "I'm the bad brother that kills people without remorse" makes me want to jump off a cliff! Damon willingly occupies that role to a) justify his actions and b) for the audience to pity him (because we all know that…

I understand that Elena had an influence on Damon's humanity from throughout the show and that his emotions were probably in flux before then, but if Damon did allow himself to feel emotions concerning his brother before S1, they would still most likely be angry and/or vengeful, not this selfless/"I want to help my…

I understand that Elena had an influence on Damon's humanity from throughout the show and that his emotions were probably in flux before then, but if Damon did allow himself to feel emotions concerning his brother before S1, they would still most likely be angry and/or vengeful, not this selfless/"I want to help my…