Yeah, and the zillion JFK references in the final season only hint that Chase knew we would be all coming up with theories has to who did it.

J.P., I used to comment on the old HBO boards years ago. After the Season 2 finale, you would not believe how many people thought that Pussy was alive and that his murder scene was just a dream.

J.P., I used to comment on the old HBO boards years ago. After the Season 2 finale, you would not believe how many people thought that Pussy was alive and that his murder scene was just a dream.

ElDan

ElDan

Tony dying in front of his family just makes the ending so damn epic and tragic that it has to be right.  Not to mention all of the great reasons articulated by MOS in part 2 of his long essay as to why Tony dying in front of his family had to be the only way the series could end.

Tony dying in front of his family just makes the ending so damn epic and tragic that it has to be right.  Not to mention all of the great reasons articulated by MOS in part 2 of his long essay as to why Tony dying in front of his family had to be the only way the series could end.

Totally agree.  I think the pool scene is the only scene in the whole show that actually caused me to tear up a little.  Although the Christoper chocking and then hugging Ade scene after she told him she was informing was a close second.

Totally agree.  I think the pool scene is the only scene in the whole show that actually caused me to tear up a little.  Although the Christoper chocking and then hugging Ade scene after she told him she was informing was a close second.

This argument by Alan is weak. Did he forget about Coco?  He thinks Tony did not die because we know of no active plot to take him out.  By showing just that, Chase would rob himself of the whole "never hear it" concept he was going for.  The real killer is the true ambiguity and mystery that Chase leaves us with.

This argument by Alan is weak. Did he forget about Coco?  He thinks Tony did not die because we know of no active plot to take him out.  By showing just that, Chase would rob himself of the whole "never hear it" concept he was going for.  The real killer is the true ambiguity and mystery that Chase leaves us with.

Or you could argue it DID happen on screen just not in the way you would normally expect to see.  You SAW it through Tony's eyes, carefully set up by a very deliberate point of view pattern.  The 10 second black screen is the final SCENE of the series. It MEANS something.  It SHOWS something.  That being Tony's…

Or you could argue it DID happen on screen just not in the way you would normally expect to see.  You SAW it through Tony's eyes, carefully set up by a very deliberate point of view pattern.  The 10 second black screen is the final SCENE of the series. It MEANS something.  It SHOWS something.  That being Tony's…

Wallflower,

Wallflower,

I love Alan but his view on the meaning of the finale is just silly.   If you read his write ups (like I did) for the final season, he wouldn't stop saying Tony would not die at the end.  Then, right after the final aired, he gloated that he was right.  Now, that people have actually analyzed the ending, it's clear…

I love Alan but his view on the meaning of the finale is just silly.   If you read his write ups (like I did) for the final season, he wouldn't stop saying Tony would not die at the end.  Then, right after the final aired, he gloated that he was right.  Now, that people have actually analyzed the ending, it's clear…

Because most people just aren't smart enought to get the depth of last season of the Sopranos.  The last season is probably closer to what Chase always wanted to do all along.   The first season is simplistic is comparison to the later years.

Because most people just aren't smart enought to get the depth of last season of the Sopranos.  The last season is probably closer to what Chase always wanted to do all along.   The first season is simplistic is comparison to the later years.

I more saw it as pretty much everyone dies by the end of "The Departed" which is exactly how the Sopranos ends up (except for Paulie).