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I think you are.  Tony and Johnny Sack's relationship was in a pretty good place before this episode especially after Tony doing the Rusty hit for him.  In "Sopranos Home Movies" Tony tells Carmela he "destroyed his relationship with Johnny Sac" by getting her that house.

There are two other episodes though: "Cold Stones" (a classic in my opinion) and "Kaisha"

There are two other episodes though: "Cold Stones" (a classic in my opinion) and "Kaisha"

Right. I think that's another big point of the ending.  Once Tony is dead, the view into his world is closed to us.  Tony doesn't get to know what happens to the rest of his real family and mob family and neither do we.   Chase isn't giving us closure.

Right. I think that's another big point of the ending.  Once Tony is dead, the view into his world is closed to us.  Tony doesn't get to know what happens to the rest of his real family and mob family and neither do we.   Chase isn't giving us closure.

It's a nice coincidence if you're correct but no way this was intentional.  Someone else mentioned to me once that Tony gets killed in episode 86, or he was "86'ed."   Again, some things are just coincidences.

It's a nice coincidence if you're correct but no way this was intentional.  Someone else mentioned to me once that Tony gets killed in episode 86, or he was "86'ed."   Again, some things are just coincidences.

By the end of the show, HBO let Chase spend whatever he wanted on licensing for music rights or clips from real commercials, films, movies etc.  The NFL price must have been too high or they simply didn't want it used for a show with such adult content/violence etc.  You know, because the NFL is such a wholesome sport

By the end of the show, HBO let Chase spend whatever he wanted on licensing for music rights or clips from real commercials, films, movies etc.  The NFL price must have been too high or they simply didn't want it used for a show with such adult content/violence etc.  You know, because the NFL is such a wholesome sport

Funny because "Vinn" was Finn's father in "The Test Dream"!!

Funny because "Vinn" was Finn's father in "The Test Dream"!!

“Blue Comet” foreshadowing: Bobby plays with his trains (which are used
symbolically, to depict Vito and Jim’s coupling), and the final song
that plays over the end credits is all about a train bearing down on
someone working on a railroad track."

“Blue Comet” foreshadowing: Bobby plays with his trains (which are used
symbolically, to depict Vito and Jim’s coupling), and the final song
that plays over the end credits is all about a train bearing down on
someone working on a railroad track."

I think Chase left subtle indications of exactly what Carm's life would be like after Tony is killed.  Showing anything after Tony's death would be unnecessary.  I think Carm's life would fall some where between Ginny Sack (destitute) and Angie Bompensiero (newly self made woman). The evidence:

I think Chase left subtle indications of exactly what Carm's life would be like after Tony is killed.  Showing anything after Tony's death would be unnecessary.  I think Carm's life would fall some where between Ginny Sack (destitute) and Angie Bompensiero (newly self made woman). The evidence:

Excellent recap but I have one issue. I'm not sure I agree that Tony gave Janice Johnny Sac's house because Tony "no longer respected him" and wanted to punish him in some passive aggressive way.  I really don't see any indication of that here.  In fact (and I would have to re-watch the episode) but didn't Tony

Excellent recap but I have one issue. I'm not sure I agree that Tony gave Janice Johnny Sac's house because Tony "no longer respected him" and wanted to punish him in some passive aggressive way.  I really don't see any indication of that here.  In fact (and I would have to re-watch the episode) but didn't Tony

"If the point of the show were that Tony's decisions had devolved him
into an uncaring sociopathic monster, that's one thing.  But for the
show to arrive suddenly at the diagnosis that Tony was always an
untreatable monster, well, that's about as unforgiveable a retcon as you
can do."

"If the point of the show were that Tony's decisions had devolved him
into an uncaring sociopathic monster, that's one thing.  But for the
show to arrive suddenly at the diagnosis that Tony was always an
untreatable monster, well, that's about as unforgiveable a retcon as you
can do."

What's the stretch? that the final scene purposely evoked the Godfather or that the reference earlier in the season deliberately foreshadowed the ending (rather than an "after the fact"connection)?