Basically, musically, JD & SATB(1978-79) played the same kind of music: post-punk with gothic overtones.
The first time the term "gothic rock" was ever used, it was for JD in July 1980 in a review of Closer.
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"Punk" is basically a music with rock'n'roll guitars riff of Chuck Berry, Keith Richards and the Faces played at 3 times faster and social issues (being on the dole, being anarchist etc….) Their sound was falt and upfront.The Clash & the Pistols are punk.