I'll stop pissing when DS9 fans stop coming int TNG forums and reviews and insisting that their show did everything so much better. What a snore fest that is.

But Picard never let Worf just blow things up either. I think there was a sense that he thought he knew better than Data and that, in his eyes, Data was not the most fit for command for whatever reason.

You're skewing your facts. Cable was nearly 10 years old in 87. My housing complex enforced cable subscriptions in order to avoid eye-sore antennas that year. MTV and Nickelodeon were house hold names by then.

Split the audience? They weren't on at the same time. It should have been a built in audience. If people didn't like it because they sat on a station all day (which I do think is an obvious excuse for more fundamental problems) then it wasn't really a very good concept.

Spin offs do well when they are good. Some times they surpass the original. Law and Order SVU. The Jeffersons. Maude. Good Times. Fraiser. Benson. Pinky and the Brain. The Honeymooners. A Different World. The Colbert Report. The Facts of Life. Boston Legal. And that's off the top of my head. You kind of need to screw…

You're comparing two different eras of DS9. When the show first started it was replacing a sky rocket show. I did have a huge initial budget to make the station, ships, that opening battle sequence, sets, etc. I mean, Odo morphed. Do you know what a big deal that was in the 90s?

But DS9 had a built in audience and it couldn't hold it. You can't tell me that the people watching TNG wouldn't automatically be interested in a spinoff. Accept that DS9 couldn't hold an audience.

That's weird. They're both me. But an account I didn't know could be associated AV Club. Hmmm.

Sorry, I said 6th. I meany 60%. From 11 million at TNG's height to 4 million at DS9's height.

"Fat load of good it did them." Yup.

Yup.

Just using any shots of the original model is a good thing. It constrains them to matching the footage. Hopefully they'll replace the 4 footer with something that looks like the 6 footer.

You mean you didn't like angry white men and whiny teens fighting to survive against cartoon dinosaurs? Shocking.

I've said it before, I just don't dig episodes that make Data dangerous (other than Brothers). It's too cruel and damaging to the character. I also didn't really like that the very serious Troi stabbing was surrounded by rather silly humor about Geordi crushes, annoying Jazz, fake yawning, Freudian analysis, and Worf…

Actually the FX were filmed on 35mm and only composited with video. The models are on film. The phasers and stuff were done on video and will have to be remade. But the model shots should be the originals. More info here:

Sigh, yet another bully harassing the untested ship's captain. This time Worf on Data. TNG writers, why are you such one trick ponies?

Hey, nobody noticed that the photographer from MacGyver is the Romulan in Gambit.

Make you wonder how the fuck he won the Terminator case.

I love that you're doing these "boyish" things with your daughter. I've been criticized before for "forcing" my daughter to play with traditionally male things. But it's not as if I forbid her girly things. I just feel that I need to bring her the best of me and my interests and holding those back would be wrong.

@avclub-bbb04f2a70775131fa0397bbdb4c03de:disqus , I don't think we are disagreeing about his nature. I just think you're stuck on the idea that Data's ethic could only come from one facet of his programming, when I'm saying that that program was only a starting point. Data's ethics at this point must come from a…