Ramsay had sex with his wife because it’s his duty to consummate the marriage and eventually have children to further the family line. It may not be good justification, but he had reasons.
Ramsay had sex with his wife because it’s his duty to consummate the marriage and eventually have children to further the family line. It may not be good justification, but he had reasons.
No, she murdered him to make an example out of him and scare the others. She had no proof that he was involved in the Sons of the Harpy.
I’m amazed how little credit you give Sansa. Her choice to marry Ramsay and then enter that room knowing what was going to happen is part of her development as a character. Sansa doesn’t know totally that Ramsay is a psychopath, and perhaps she hopes he’ll be gentle but she knows he’s twisted, has been with others and…
Huh? Murder is never justified. Killing may be justified at times, but murder is not. That’s why it’s murder. Dany murdered that Master. She didn’t kill him, she murdered him. In today’s world, there is no justification for that.
You can make the argument that it’s a deviation from the books, but if Sansa is just going to sit around in the Vale then she isn’t in the game and what’s the point of her story? Do they just use a throwaway character and let her be brutalized to enable Theon?
Saying it’s rape from the point of view of society today is saying that Dany tortured and murdered the Master in Mereen without giving him a fair trial.
Sansa agreed as well. She absolutely agreed. Not liking something doesn’t mean you don’t agree to it.
Sansa knew going into that room that Ramsay was going to have sex with her. That doesn’t mean she wanted to have sex, but she made that choice to get married and go into that room with the knowledge that she’d no longer be a virgin.
Let’s not sugarcoat it like Cersei, Lysa and Catelyn (at first) were all deeply in love with her husbands and wanted nothing more than to have sex with them. They did it because they had to do it.
Everyone knows it’s rape and it’s horrible as an act, but murder exists too and it’s all over Westeros - much of it justified. Care to go into detail on all of the unnecessary and senseless killing in the show?
I think the disconnect between rape in the real world today and sex in Westeros between a husband and wife skews the view of this.
I explained it elsewhere, but I think that’s a very short view. As I said, her being raped is pretty much par for the course for the setting. It’s a battle she couldn’t win. Ramsay added a special flair with forcing Theon to watch, but once she accepted the marriage she knew what was going to happen. Did she enjoy it?…
Sansa has been a manipulated pawn from the start. She had no active role in Joffrey’s demise. She simply became a target because of her being an unwitting accomplice. She babysat Robin and did was Littlefinger told her to do, lying about his murder of her aunt.
Shocking development from the Song of Ice and Fire: Bad things happen to major characters.
Hey, it’s a fantasy. You can let the setting be whatever you want despite the obvious.
How am I being an asshole? You argument was that a main character got raped. Lots of characters face harsher outcomes - many of them nobodies that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. No big deal?
Ahh, so because those fantasy elements exist other realism should be avoided ... with regard to main characters at least.
Also, which characters are rape-able and for that matter kill-able? Only minor characters that are not of consequence? You’d fit right in with medieval nobility.
So you effectively have no idea what it’s about or why you don’t like it.
The Song of Ice and Fire is significantly based on the War of the Roses.