Voter ID does not mean what you are using it to mean. Voter ID means the likelihood that someone will vote for your candidate based on your conversation with them.

This isn’t just a large file. They spent 40 minutes cutting at least 25 lists based on Clinton campaign information. 40 minutes in VAN is plenty.

You do not understand what you are talking about. It takes tremendous resources to contact and score voters as potential supporters (or on the fence supporters), and taking that from another campaign is completely out of line.

I’m actually not sure if it gets turned over to the winner after a primary, or just folded into future algorithms provided by the VAN. I know that some campaigns export and then purge all proprietary data after a campaign (especially if they lose). I don’t think there’s any way for individuals to encrypt their…

Yeah, but the Sanders campaign got the opportunity for villainy because they fucked up big time.

Unfortunately, the only vendor in the field is one of the worst, most incompetent companies imaginable. That doesn’t mean the Sanders campaign was allowed to do this.

That is likely a CYA lie from VAN, tbh.

It’s because everyone uses the same service in the party. The only thing shielding your carefully collected voter data is a user agreement and a buggy firewall run by, I assume, drunk elementary schoolers. The only thing proprietary is the survey data collected - all of the contact information is public record, just…

False. There has been no evidence that any other campaign accessed Sanders data.

It is truly horrendous software - but life was worse without it.

It’s priced according to what level of access you need. For example, statewide access is more expensive than Congressional district access. It’s usually a few thousand dollars for a campaign long subscription (but it’s an open secret that they won’t cut you off for failing to pay, making it a low priority bill). The…

You don’t just “look at” data in the VAN. When they realized they had access to information they shouldn’t, they ran lists based on voter propensity scores (30 and below as scored by HRC campaign to call as persuadables and 70 and above as scored by HRC campaign to eliminate from call lists as hardcore supporters).…

It’s not a glitch so much as it is a singular database system that 100% of Democratic candidates buy access to for elections. It’s terrible, buggy, unresponsive, and mediocre firewalls managed by people who don’t know or care what they’re doing are the only things that separate campaign data from one another. That’s…

This is him on the offensive after his staff was caught breaking the rules and stealing proprietary information? So brave.

I have truly found a kindred spirit.

Thank god, someone else who has used the VAN and isn’t conspiracy theorizing about private servers and shady vendors.

They’re a monopoly. They’re terrible in all 50 states, but they’re better than anything the Republicans have.

It was stored in a campaign database called NGP VAN that all Democratic campaigns buy access to from the party. It is really grating that people have so many opinions on this data breach (which wasn’t a data breach but a deliberate violation of the terms of service for this admittedly buggy and terrible data system)…

Anyone who’s used VAN also knows that there’s a user agreement that campaigns agree to for access that prohibits this kind of behavior - even if the firewall is down.

Does them reporting it make it okay for them to later exploit it and steal opposition campaign data? I think not.