Hahahaha, “former”...  As someone that grew up there and then moved (far) away....yeah.  It’s a beautiful place....except for the people.

I mean, he only had 160 violations. Do we really want to set precedent that they will enforce anything below 200?

It’s ok to feel sympathy...for that 240Z that didn’t deserve to die.

The dodge journey deserves it’s own class. I still don’t understand that vehicle. 3 rows of seats that no one can sit in. A mid-size-ish suv that gets gas mileage on par with an 80s carbureted pickup (that’s poorly tuned).

Killed off because it was too good and was faster then a corvette you say?

Even the church of satan has brought a suit against this. And where are we when the church of satan is the rational and reasonable one in a conflict?

Related tangent: I wish we could stop calling what these people are selling “conspiracy theories”. Theory has a definition and this ain’t it. Hell it isn’t even a hypothesis.... Alex Jones and his ilk are peddling conspiracy....meth fueled delusions...?  trains of thought that derailed...?  mental dumpster fires...?

And here we have the answer to the question of how the red states plan to deal with the kids from impoverished areas now that abortion is illegal...

Nice.  In all seriousness, I wonder if the guys at bimmercode (the makers of the app) will put an override in for the next gen cars.  And how bmw will react.  

An OBDII port reader with bluetooth and a $40 app will unlock all the eurospec stuff which turns it into a different car.  Its crazy all the stuff you can change in the software.

Weird is an option? Ok hear me out here.

Exactly. There is a lot of other options at 73k to haul the kids around. We found one at MSRP...except I need to fly to Vermont and drive it 3000 miles to get it home.  Road trip always beats stupid dealer markups.

A toyota dealership near me was buying the new inventory, holding it for 6 months as demo vehicles so they could put plates on them, then selling them as certified pre-owned for %60 to 80% over MSRP (Sienna with a 44k sticker listed for 73k). I sincerely hope they contract all manner of painful STDs and would walk to…

I’m sure this car is worth the asking price. Probably more, but it is the worst looking mustang they ever made in a color only a 19 year old with his hat backwards could love, and I don’t trust cleetus in his flannel taking the pictures.

This, pretty sure the sienna has a very similar hybrid setup and gets 36.  No clue how this lighter vehicle could be that much worse.

2nd Gear. Personally, if it can be proven that one is better, I’m all for it, even though my little bmw has the wrong plug.  But a nationwide adoption/mandate better come with free adapters.

Pretty sure the infiniti system, in order to comply with DOT and all that, has a power failure connection system like a dead man’s switch so that a physical connection is restored in an emergency.  

I never thought of that. And loud pipes can’t save their lives... Sounds like a discrimination suit in the making.

With a little help, we found a dealership that was willing to custom order what we wanted and sell it to us at MSRP instead of insane markups and crazy dealer add-ons. The only catch is I have to drive it 3000 miles to get it home. A small price to pay for getting what we want at a reasonable price. Black/black AWD…

Bit late to the party but there is a Toyota dealer near Seattle that is buying their allocation of Siennas, holding them for 6 months to avoid the penalties Toyota would inflict on them, then marking them up 60% or more as CPO’s with 100 miles on them. We looked at one just to stick our head inside. 73k for a vehicle…