@Flike: It's funny that the same people up in arms over Facebook privacy concerns are probably heralding this. The basic idea here is that all these large corporations want your date, they want to know about you, all in order to make money from you. Some of it may be packaged in "cool trappings," but that's where we…

@Arken: You know, there's very little to be gained from arguing with him. I'm sure he's just looking at porn on his Droid and saying, "you can't do this on an iPhone!" (you can)

@gonzorider: ROFL! That's funny. I suppose we should say the same of most electronics manufacturers, except not all of those are beautiful.

@jblues: lol. That's funny. But let me ask, since you care about them so much, are you advocating that everyone return their iPhone? For their own good?

@jblues: I'd like to argue all day, specifically over why I should so up in arms over an issue I don't have. What you think of me? Don't care.

@PhineasJW: Because they're reviewing the phone and not the network?

@boyracer: Well, now that they're having a press conference tomorrow, I think I'll reserve judgment until I see what/if they're doing about this.

@jblues: Actually, if you think I care what you or anyone else here or elsewhere thinks about a product I use, you couldn't be more mistaken.

@William Jones: Are you serious? If people are really this angry, why haven't they returned these phones en masse? I'm really believing this is not the problem people are making it out to be, except an advantageous one for anti-Apple folk.

@robotkiller: here, here. Not a problem. In fact, when I recreate the infamous "issue" with the Speedtest app, twice I had faster download speeds while giving it the grip-o-death than I did holding it gingerly.

@jblues: It only reinforces what Apple critics have been saying because they desperately need it to.

@boyracer: Interesting. I'd say you're having the same experience I am. I did a speedtest in my office again, and the only noticeable difference is in upload speed (but barely, and that's bad still right now- like consistently under or around 90kbps).

@tvcity6455: NOES! There is a dead horse to beat on the internets!

@boyracer: It's hard for me to say since my experience is so different. I work way on the west side as well, which has traditionally been kind of a crappy place for cellular reception (I started here with Sprint and it was atrocious here and uptown, where I lived). I bought an iPhone during my time here and switched…

@boyracer: I work and live in Manhattan, so I spend most of my time in midtown, Chelsea, Village or UWS. I see bar droppage inside stores, particularly in large buildings or in basements. The grocery store near work is fairly deep, and that's where I did my Speedtest yesterday when I had three bars (and doing "the…

@boyracer: Well, I think you sound very unsure. I have had a much better experience. Again, they supposedly reinforced the New York City network, so I might have gotten lucky. People with the 3G and 3GS don't have the speed I have in the same room, though, so I'm guessing I either got lucky, or I'm really just…

@boyracer: Well, yes. For me, whatever degradation in data occurring when I hold the phone without a case is negligible. For me, there is no problem.

@boyracer: I just did it. I only get a signal drop if I'm palming the left band and also straddling the right band with my finger. At least, that's a consistent bar drop. However, I can just cover the entire lower right side of the phone and get a signal drop, too.

@norazi: I think I do understand the problem, thanks. In all the gleeful comments remarking on this turkey of a product, I think it's slipped past that you already have to be in fairly shoddy cell areas to make this happen.

@boyracer: Yeah, I hold it backwards. :-)