I’d be totally fine with that. Require potential buyers to have a business account a vehicle is expensed to or whatever else. There’s just no good reason to let “personal choice” or the need to tow a trailer 5 times a year serve as justification for buying a personal vehicle that, in 2022, can’t crack an average of at…

Seriously. Absolutely mind-boggling that non-cars are still not subject to a gas-guzzler tax, and that that tax hasn’t been adjusted at all in 31 years. There’s not even a lot of attention brought to that fact, perhaps due to a misplaced faith in consumers’ rationality leading them to eventually pick hybrids/EVs, in…

If Newsom was actually interested in helping Californians and changing the awful status quo, he’d make sure rich NIMBYs don’t block dense developments and that more people can easily exist without a car, as you are. Instead, we get this....

Amazing that people still say things like “free market” and mean them.

Dammit, what is it going to take to get Americans—and I single us out because we are far and away the worst about this—to realize that you cannot rely on cars to move everyone around, and that you shouldn’t build your towns and cities such that you do? So much f***ing waste, for nothing.

Would’ve loved to see this, but of course, if a car isn’t taller than it needs to be, Americans don’t want it.

This all assumes, though, that you already own a car. Granted even if you do, it may be paid off already, but otherwise you’re not getting it for free, and wear and tear is a thing, especially on heavily-trafficked roads. The whole point of good train service--and urban planning--is that it should be assumed that no…

The gas guzzler tax NEEDS to apply to these things. It’s completely insane that there’s no additional tax on a monster like this.

Because Americans are still stupid, and too few people prioritize long-term savings and not burning the planet down over the initial MSRP.

As gas prices are unlikely to significantly decline, ever, in the future, yes, a hybrid is always going to be the more sensible choice financially over a non-hybrid version of the same car.

Pretty sure there wasn’t a 2WD version of the old CR-V hybrid. And yes, don’t be absurd—very few, possibly no modern car sold in the U.S. doesn’t have enough power for highway passing. Even if you have to floor it a moment or two, there’s no reason to pay for extra fuel consumption just to avoid that rare occasion.

Coming from an ancient Subaru Forester, especially when the Sonata’s in EV mode on the highway with the adaptive cruise and lane-centering active, it’s a smooth, silent, soothing experience.

Woulda loved to buy my ‘20 Sonata hybrid as a coupe; go full-on luxury cruiser mode. Also, not to make it weird, but Bob is kinda daddy.

Who, we know, is wise enough to say that they cannot say anything for sure.

Sucks being an epistemologically and phenomenologically bounded entity; I want transcendence, now!

Honestly, I feel like this commercial would do pretty well, today.

Same here, enough that I bought a Sonata hybrid almost 2 years ago. It’s a bit expensive for my budget, but I can’t help but look back at it as I’m walking away. ~50mpg and ~600mi to a tank is pretty nice, too.

Pretty well inclined to agree. The only use they’d really suit is long-range trucking, and even that should mostly be replaced with electrified rail freight.

Missing from the Hyundai-Rimac story is that Hyundai is more or less stopping fuel cell development for passenger cars, generally. The Nexo is dying soon, and the Genesis fuel cell that was supposed to replace it has been cancelled. I don’t know if there were supposed to be more projects Hyundai and Rimac were…

So, this, or the incoming GV60, which is more powerful, has longer range, charges faster, and will likely cost about the same? I may prefer the Lexus’ styling, and ultimately I’m buying neither, but the choice seems easy to make.

It’s as lazy a joke as it is an argument.