aquaticko
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aquaticko

Note: this is not a question. This is an accusation.

That's right.

Maybe if you all didn’t give such a disproportionately large crap about which group of guys gets a weird-shaped ball from one end of a field to another, all the stupidity would go away.

But by what I understand from what I’ve read of your definition of “legitimately bad cars”, the only metrics are reliability and durability. And as we’re talking specifically about cars from the last decade—where German cars have been, at their best, average, and generally far behind at least the East Asian

How's the Koolaid?

...How do you not see the differences? In the Crossfire, the roofline essentially extends into and converges with the rear bumper, whereas in this concept, there is a very definite, very obvious (if predictably short) rear deck, in addition to a slight bump in the swooshy-ness of the roofline over the rear seats,

Quite nice, if not exactly original. Is anything, though, these days?

...Because it’s a silver coupe? Really?

This is why, much though I hate to wait for what I hope will be new and interesting takes on a halo car, I understand both Cadillac’s and Hyundai’s recent admission that they won’t be building dedicated sportscars anytime soon. There’s just not the support for the brand necessary to make people think twice (instead of

But I’m so glad that they knowingly and willingly make cars with...subjective styling. There’s so much “objective” styling these days, where it all looks exactly like you’d expect.

First of all, an indicator is not a guarantee. Second of all, they’re still working on driving dynamics...as are Toyota, GM (outside of Cadillac), Nissan, and Chrysler, all of whom have been building cars for far longer than Hyundai have. Little though I know of it, suspension and steering tuning seems to be at least

So you admit, then, that judging a company solely by what it used to do, instead of also by what it's now doing, is illogical, and you also recant your original silly statement?

...Exactly, and now they no longer sell shit cars. I’d agree if you said none are class-leading or are too innovatively designed or engineered, which is definitely both unfortunate and not the best the company could do, but to call all of their cars garbage is just incorrect.

They hardly had the money or know-how to sell anything else. If I remember correctly, this is a company which didn’t even develop its own engines until the ‘90’s. It takes time to figure out how to do this stuff right. I have my own reservations in my respect for Hyundai, but it’s foolish to pretend they’re the same

Ridiculous is right up my alley.

And can be had with a 420hp V8. Can't wait to buy one for $5k in 10 years.

Thanks for a laugh or seven.

A country as small as South Korea is perfect for electric vehicles...but then again, a country as small as South Korea, one in which statistically everyone lives in very dense cities, is best served by high-speed rail and public transit. At least they already have that, too.

It's so frustrating, too, when I sense that there's a latent passion for cars within the company. Things like the Kia GT and GT4 Stinger, and various HND concept cars suggest that something good could come out of Hyundai/Kia, if only the suits up top would let it.

Well, truth be told, it’s not like they’ve really been offered much choice. Hyundai, Kia, and SsangYong have only ever offered luxury vehicles as sedans, and imported vehicles were always too expensive for most people. Seeing how consistent the trend towards luxury crossovers has been globally, the company’s