and who was his sidekick who like to dress like a nazi and get spanked. That’s not a good look.

The humanity...

ouch

Sadly, America doesn’t do delightful.

That was the Dodge Aspen - so bad it resulted in federal action.

I think that’s th epoint everyone is making. If Tesla or Chevy are getting around 270 - 300 based on EPA testing, and Porsche is getting 200 with the exact same testing, there’s your relative efficiency.

EVs are more efficient in city driving than in constant speed highway driving. So whatever clcultaions someone is making, that should be taken into account. For example, an electric motorcycle capable of mixed use range of 90 - 100 miles, will only get around 40 miles/charge if only driven on the highway.

Elon Musk is a scammer!!!!  Oh, sorry wrong thread.

like air? LOL

Yeah apart from the -253 degree compressed thing and explosive at anywhere near normal ambient temps, and no obvious purpose since so far hydrogen is at best energy neutral to make.  Just the same....

Dude - it’s $80,000 more than a Tesla with maybe 1/2 to 2/3 the range with all the resources of the largest auto company in the world - Tesla deserves props and Porsche should get to work.

I’d just rather have more range like all the other EVs - excepting perhaps the Leaf.

That’s what you wear when you’re stalking My Little Pony.  Don’t hurt the pony!!!!!!

And there’s this : Same bones but the sexy segway name. https://store.segway.com/dirtebike

Get an Ariel Atom - I think you’ll be happy.

I know, but bars and percentages don’t really reflect the bloody carnage and broken bodies. Neither does the number 40,000, but it is striking and perhaps a moment to pause and think.

Stats are funny - about 40,000 people die in car accidents.

..and dogs.

Can stand up to packing peanuts at 20 feet.  Good enough.

I take it all back. I mean it. Now will you stay?