“....it also makes a pretty bold statement”. Yes it does: “Kill me, please.....kill me.)

“The Corolla, aside from reliability....”  Competent and reliable - done.

Yur problem is you won’t get a minivan.  Everyone would be stretched in luxury - they will thank you.  ...and you can drive the wheels off it.

It’s easier to pronounce.

I’d go for the civic, but around the world, the entire world, when you get a cab or a rental, it’s a corolla. A durable well built car.

“Edwards: What can touch a man like that?”

guess i’ll keep my honda fit - too bad - sad...

That’s crazy talk - get out of the sun!!

Also word “the” will be eliminated in our dysfunctional univers.

It’s a lovely little car, but it is not remarkably light and that’s where it shows its age. A civic type R hatch with 4 seats and -well - a hatch - is about 100lbs lighter, and a civic sport hatch is about 300lbs lighter. Sure, different cars, but the evora is smaller than the bloated Porsches and the civics are…

Countless thousands of miles of joy free teutonic driving. No doubt there is a dour moral lesson to be derived. Some love em - I don’t.

Probably front mid - maybe

You had me at “12-inch gauge cluster” ...

Immigrants with jetpacks - Trump just shat a chicken wing.

This country is insane.

or don’t care about intellectual property or where the capital is.  These are companies using the US for cheap  labor and tax abatements.  No mystery they’re in the developing nation we call the south.

It’s about 3800lbs - not light - and proud of it - but not out of line for a large modern car especialy with 600 effing hp. It’s about $110,000 which is not a bad price for such a car - and it is very distinctive and doesn’t trigger an immediate douche gag reflex. That alone is worth $15 large.

I think people just find Tesla critics grabbing “facts” out of their ass annoying.  That’s about it.

This is patently untrue - If any car maker understands the importance of software updates/security it is Tesla. Other car makers pretty much leave you to your own devices.

Fine as far as I’m concerned. Hey - living in the city makes an EV hard for me.