No, that's a competition, not a sport. That's why we have different words for competition and sport. WEIRD.

Right but once you have the hand it's ALL about how you play it. If you watched any of the 24 hour marathons they'd play back in the day you'd know it's incredibly rare to have the best possible hand so it's all a mind game to convince someone else you have something better than them when you may not. You can take…

This! I was gonna make this argument but you beat me to it. And much like Tebow, if Sam was a STUD then it would be a no-brainer but do you really want distractions of any kind from the last guy on your bench?

Ditto on people caring too much. I've had this argument (about NASCAR) before and, IMO, if it doesn't take any real athletic ability (no, sitting in a hot environment for hours and constantly shifting doesn't count) with a clear-cut scoreboard/you can tell who's winning/you don't need judges save for combat sports…

Still not a sport. I can't do origami but if someone could do it wicked fast, while it would blow my mind, it would still be just an activity that someone is insanely good at and not a sport.

No it doesn't. Poker takes a lot of skill, so does Dota, but neither is really a sport. You had me til it became clear you treat poker as a sport.

No no no. Just because something's hard and someone can do it really well doesn't make it a sport unless you think Rubik's Cube is a sport.

Racing is only a sport when it's done by runners, not cars. And poker, hunting, and billiards are not sports, period.

That game OWNED. I miss the defensive playmaker so much. Hitting right or left on the right analog and creating my own zone Ds would stimy even the drunkest of my friends. We wasted many college weeknights on that game.

Didn't care about the pollution. Human rights are nice but not for everyone. But this? This is the last straw. Nuke China

No, I'm saying I think I responded to someone else (the troll) that was since dismissed. I get you're actually having a real conversation...

haha I don't remember writing that to you. Pretty sure a troll got dismissed.

Not knocking Wade at all but facts are facts. He's declining noticably. Irving's injuries haven't been the degenerative kind that could continually come back but yes, his inability to stay healthy is quite troubling.

Exactly. Still, to steal Simmons analogy if (used when the Suns "overpaid" to keep Steve Nash) if you spend "$120M on an $80M yacht you still have an $80M yacht."

Very easy for you to say someone doesn't need the money like it's nothing. $50M is $50M. Period.

You sound crazy. Taking 2 for $42M is still a risk compared to locking up 4 for $90M. That's almost $50M he potentially left on the table in hopes his knee doesn't explode (it IS Cleveland after all) before the new TV deal knocks the cap into the stratosphere and bumps the max up to damn near $30M per.

You're off the mark. Joining up with what was considered a super team in Miami and "only" going 2 of 4 in the Finals knocked him back a peg and most people would have needed to see him rattle off like 5 or 6 straight with Miami to even think about it but if he wins a hand full in Cleveland that conversation can start…

Eh, I like it. He was a villain but he wants to be loved. I'm a Celtics fan and loathe him more than anyone but Kobe but this is a great story.

Durant for sure but you're not usually thinking of those guys when you get flexible. What Miami tried to do (signing Granger and McRoberts to play valuable fill-in-the-gaps roles) around them is typically what you'd want, maybe an $8-$10M per kinda guy that'd be more than you could do if you don't sign him before…

I'm not fan of Bosh but the guy can play and has been a GREAT teammate over the past 4 years giving up shots to Wade and LeBron while going from a stretch 4 to their center and only rim protector. Put him back at the 4 in a more traditional offense I bet he puts up 24 and 7 next year on a 5 seed.