Yeah, I knew going in that the Rav4 (Toyota) was the car I wanted, and I knew how much I wanted to pay for it. My mom and I had gone to one Toyota dealership and when I told them I wanted to pay cash, they basically refused to haggle AT ALL. So I kept that knowledge in my back pocket when we headed to a different…

Women are perceived to be warmer than men, whether or not they actually are. Countless commenters with take-no-shit attitudes have recounted stories of being lied to (to an idiotic extent, clearly not the kind of lies salesmen would expect to get past just anyone) only to immediately storm out of the dealership,…

NO. Salesmen lie to women MORE. Do you get that? If you lie to 50% of male customers but 80% female customers, obviously more women are gonna get screwed and not due to their not doing their homework or being assertive.

YES. This article didn't say more women were falling for the bullshit more, just more women were getting bullshit. I imagine a similar percentage of men as women fall for it, just fewer men are subjected to it.

Similar experience here. I went into Home Depot to get a quote on counter top when I was reno'ing my kitchen a couple years back. I'd taken the measurements and was certain on them. Sales dude tried to convince me I needed three times the length ('cause apparently my kitchen extends into my garden unbeknownst to me…

The calculator. Your mother is a stone cold badass.

I have mine?!?!?! Seriously!?! I mean, the sale was pretty much made; you told him exactly what you wanted, and he just straight up told you that his own personal wants and needs were more important than yours.

That is indeed total bull that women can't drive manual. Manual transmission is the default hereabouts in Europe and everyone and their nana knows how to drive one.

Don't feel bad about being curt; they are trying to fuck you over and you have every right to be annoyed. You're not flying off the handle over sixty bucks, you're flying off the handle over the principle of the situation. (and "flying off the handle" implies hysteria or misplaced anger. It isn't.) They chose to…

Totally. I've been a buxom blonde for the last 20 years (so, since I was a teen, right?), and it's amazing how dumb people assume I am.

I'm one of those people who struggles with the balance between being polite and being direct when it comes to this sort of thing. I have a hard time being firm, because it feels rude to me (even though I *know* it's not). My mom and sister, however, give zero shits about anyone else's feelings. This is/was a constant…

My Dad grew up dirt poor and is a vicious negotiator. A few years back, through extensive research and rebates and this and that he got a very sweet deal on a very popular car - a fully loaded Honda Accord, which usually sells itself.

What gets me is all the comments saying it isn't a gendered thing and women need to just learn to negotiate and they NEVER have a problem because they call people on shit. Do people even read the article before wanting to lay the blame women? This was about people flat out lying because of gender and warmth. Even if…

This is a way more difficult thing to do when you're talking about salary negotiations.

my boyfriend and i have been talking about this sort of thing a lot recently, as i've been unemployed for awhile.

I have the same strategy, which thankfully worked for me (albeit after a few patronizing stops along the way). I ended up buying my car from a young male agent who actually went out of his way to make a car fit my needs. He even did some fancy editing on my existing car's specs so I would get more money from the buy…

What an asshole, I would be all like "the way I see it, I have the money and you're the one who needs it... biatch"

I ran into this when I was renovating a house and trying to price out the supplies. I was basically gutting and completely refinishing a house for my parents and serving as the general contractor. Problem being, I looked about 15 and the mostly male salespeople were used to dealing with professional male contractors.…

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I'm the kind of buyer who will turn and walk if I'm even slightly annoyed. Looking for a car, I would walk in, say hello, tell them what I wanted to buy and for what price. If they showed me something else, I walked out. Once, after telling the seller my specifications, he led me to a car by a different maker than I…