Honestly, I don't really know how they can continue this plot line for much longer. One of two things can happen now, the Eyes are good guys and help June get out, or they're bad guys and I assume they kill her or something. Either way, the plot line is kind of over, unless they focus season 2 entirely on the…

So much about those two scenes were great. Serena Joy saying "I know the law, I helped WRITE it." Saying everything while saying almost nothing. The scene at the council, the realization for Waterford that yes, this fucked up place could actually fuck you over too if you're not careful. I didn't think about this at…

True, but even in the show, that is a society that's way too functional and advanced for having just cut out over half their workforce. They keep talking about how they're using renewable energy. Come on, you guys just killed everyone who understands how that shit works. That's the thing, if there was some consistency…

That's a good point, especially since Serena Joy is an expert in visually manipulating the truth (making sure the handmaids with visual signs of torture are excluded from the dinner). The other thing I noticed is that the Luke episode actually gives a time frame, three years, at the end where he is in Toronto. The…

Dude, why does it matter that much? So you knew she wouldn't be there. Good for you. What do you want from me?

Whoa chill out. We were talking about the timeline in regards to June, so I don't think it was a jump to assume that it made some connection to her daughter.

I would say it has to be at least several months. June mentions that Moira left already, and I think with the way they're talking, it's implied they waited quite some time. But here's what seems weird to me, at a point where everyone of a certain identity, be it gender, race, religion, etc, is forbidden to work,…

Ok, it's been exactly three years. If you go back to the Luke episode, the first scene in Toronto says "Three Years Later." They tell him at the embassy that June wrote the note a few weeks earlier.

Oh yeah I know. When I was little my family lived in Germany and my adopted grandfather was a former Wehrmacht soldier. He was one of the kindest people I've ever met, he and his wife would even celebrate Passover with us.
But I don't think Nick is a believer, he has no reason to be.

Absolutely no way that would work. First of all, scientists would be among the first to leave. My dad is a scientist and the day after the election several foreign colleagues offered to set him up with a position abroad. Second, you're still eliminating a massive amount of people, all women, Jews, atheists,…

She's not a teenager but likely somewhat close to it. It's noted in the book that on the photographs she looks much older.

Well, June's daughter wouldn't have been among them because she wasn't born from a Handmaid. June likely wasn't in the first round of handmaids either (remember in the episode before this one, one of the escaped women comes from a red center). So we're probably about 4 or 5 years out from the Gilead takeover.

I have a difficult time with guessing children's ages. So maybe she's like 5 when they escape. Based on the toys around their apartment when June loses her job, I would guess the kid can't be older than 3. If you forbid all women to work or own property, I feel like it's going to take WAY less than 2 years to get to…

I think that makes sense. The book is also less detailed about the timeline of the other characters. I think in the book it says her daughter was a little kid when they were captured and is a teenager now.

Well, look at Moira, she went from being a fighter to being completely broken and downtrodden. It's a natural psychological response, to do their best to enjoy the few years they have left while being resigned to their fate.

I love spoilers too! It's like reading the travel guide before going on vacation, you want to know what to expect so you can keep your eyes peeled for the good parts!
TBH I actually think the show is better than the book so far. I think her writing style with Handmaid's Tale is kind of a slog, but the story is what's…

That is something I never understood about the book, their population is at a genetic bottleneck, every fertile woman is a resource, but then you're going to sterilize a couple because you're forcing them to be sex slaves….unlike the other women you're forcing to be sex slaves? I assume they probably take away the…

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Yeah I noticed that too, although by the time she enters the red center, her hair is already significantly longer than when she was captured, and that makes absolutely no sense at all, because they don't really have long term prison facilities. She would have gone to the red center after a few days.

Last night I attempted to do the math on how long Gilead has been around, in order to figure out when these people were living their previous lives. June is on her second handmaid assignment, so she's been in the process for more than a year, but not two years. Let's assume Handmaid training takes six months, how long…