I grew up in 53208 in the 1980s, literally across the street from Milwaukee on 60th and North. I used to call it “Technical Tosa.” I agree with you that even though Tosa’s mostly white, Mayfair does change the everyday diversity, regardless of the residential stats.

Maybe they weren’t full facelifts, good point. I think I was assuming. There’s a lot in between the two poles.

That makes sense. I can’t judge; my livelihood doesn’t depend on my looks so I don’t know that kind of pressure. It just strikes me as a really overdone, badly-executed bit of facial tweaking (especially when compared with better work - for example, Jane Fonda’s facelifts, which are pretty fuckin’ incredible, in my…

What is with the fillers, anyway? I see a lot of famous people lately that look like they got head transplants, because the fillers have made their face so out of proportion.

I legit thought she got a nose job somewhere in there anyway. Am I wrong about that?

Yeah, good point.

To me, this is just more evidence that editors and the like see this kind of thing as a sort of interesting exercise. It just shows me they have no real skin in the game. These ideas are more than well-known. In fact, they’re nigh foundational in America. To present it as if it’s a curiosity, and not just a retread of…

Absolutely. Plus, I’m sure his royalties dried up when the reruns stopped airing (and rightfully so; I’m just saying).

I legit did not know these ever existed.

And this:

Well, I’m not dying on it, that’s for sure. Lord knows I’ve been called way worse than ma’am in my day, so I’m not going to police anyone who’s not actively trying to be a dick. 

Not that it’s necessary (you shouldn’t get in trouble for being polite, for crying out loud), but you can always call women, “Miss.” Sounds stupid to call a 40 year-old woman, “Miss,” but I bet they won’t be offended by it.

Sounds right to me too. It’s stupid, but it’s also geographic. I don’t know where you’re from, but in the Midwest US, calling women “ma’am” isn’t as automatic as it is in many parts of the South, especially for white people. If anything is used, young women are often called, “miss,” and then when there’s the…

Excellent points, all. Your point that, “With Drag Race, *being cast* at all is a massive professional opportunity in drag, so the economic incentive is serious and real” hadn’t occurred to me before in the context of, say, ANTM. I would assume being on Top Chef and Project Runway at all are also broadly helpful, but…

I co-sign your entire comment.

Ugh. I’m a sociologist, and the discussions at the national conference about the whole Michael Kimmel accusations have been sadly illustrative of your point. Older scholars shrugging it all off like it’s totally reasonable to try to fuck multiple grad students over years and years.

The school claimed financial exigency in order to be able to fire them for good. Shady shit. But I know what you mean.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, my shitass university fired like 30 people with tenure last year, just because they have too many faculty. That whole “tenure makes you bulletproof” thing is really only applicable at the elite levels. Most colleges in America are capitalist shitholes.

“It’s not the same thing to accuse a male person in power versus accusing a woman. It’s just not the same thing, because we’ve got a culture and a very long history in which males were dominant and abusing their power.”

Interesting! Do they love her because she seems younger, hipper, and less tired than Kellyanne? Does she actually have inflection in her voice and facial expressions, setting her apart from Ivanka?