Been saving my post till this moment when we officially hear abut iOS7?

Basically Sony figures they are a lock in Japan and therefore people can and will wait.

Make a film yes.

Same here bro.

Same.

Web design for one.

The problem still remains for me, where is the proof?

Oh I agree it start a lot earlier for sure. That was like a bare minimum example to get something out the door for November.

I would like to see evidence for both these claims honestly before I believed either.

Mmmm good point. Plus honestly the VGA's aren't really that highly thought of.

They probably will.

Strangely Sony's are super ignored I find.

Maybe you can explain this to me.

Maybe you can explain this to me.

Speak for yourself.

At this point it potentially is then.

The Windows argument isn't quite the same thing.

You did read the part where he said 4 PS3 exclusives games were what he wanted right? 4 Games, announced decently earlier in the console generation, which now at the end of it, only 1 has come out.

Yeah but aren't there other games releasing before the 19th for One?

I'd imagine Spark is closer to Hub than it is to LPB.