Entirely not my point.

Based on the first 100k miles, I have no doubt it will make it to 200k, but 300k, doubtful. Yotas aren’t what they used to be.

Its like you think trucks have to be penalty boxes inside to be useful. People who buy luxury trucks use them, they just wash them after.

It costs money to test and federalize each model iteration. So it just isn’t worth it to pay for a spread of engines where the take rate isn’t going to justify the cost of getting the engine or transmission approved by the feds.

I mean, they’ll make whatever people will buy... Basically, hate the game, not the player.

USA has far different emissions and testing requirements than most of the planet. It’s much more trouble to have an engine approved for sale here.

Two words. Chicken. Tax. Basically, it’ll magically become 25% more expensive for no good reason if they bring it here unless they manufacture it here.

In Europe new vehicles tend to be ordered a la carte, in the US pre-configured vehicles are bought from a lot. The former way might be more expensive but leads to a much more diverse lineup.

People vote with their dollars and the market decides. If that’s what sells, that’s what we get.

That’s exactly what guardrails are supposed to do: fold and absorb energy from the vehicle that hit them. Gurdrails that don’t fold kill people.

love you haters with the weight problem as it blows the shit out of what your driving

They’re doing things rarely/never done before in a production car to fit a niche market. There is a market. Drag racing is still pretty popular. I mean, I hate basketball, I don’t go to news about basketball to talk about how much I don’t like it.

“It’s 10 seconds of fun followed by hours of waiting. I can’t stand it anymore”

Found the Prius owner.

It’s basically marketing. It’s not going to be a high volume car. People will say “damn that thing is nuts, look at that!” then go buy a V6 Charger / Challenger and putt around. MAYBE an R/T and some Demon badges. The incremental cost to develop over the Hellcat can’t be too exorbitant, and it gets people talking…

That’s a lot of words for not caring.

So we could very well be looking at more of a Jeep Escalade than a Jeep Range Rover. Interesting. Obviously there are pros and cons to both, but seems like they’d have built something up on the Maserati bones if they were trying to go that premium with it. Going the half-ton SUV route could pay off though - I have to…

I don’t know that I have enough faith in modern FCA products to seriously consider owning one (the 124 Spider is a Miata in drag and therefore an exception).

Again, I am super-excited that the wagoneer and grand wagoneer will exist. I’m a little worried about timing of it all and which end of the market FCA is focusing on with this. I, personally, think it’ll be a gamble for them. It could pay off with big margins (surely) or... well....