Equivocating increasing horsepower to making it easier to “roll coal” is false. Doing the latter is for the explicit purpose of being a shitbird. 

See, I would prefer that they have to buy back each and every truck and get it to pass smog at a California Smog Ref.

Oh....Spoiler alert.

And it’s never their fault when they drive into a guard rail, or the back of somebody.

With one of these vans and a box of puppies you could easily end up with a bunch of kids.

Meh, I drive in NYC all the time. Trade vans have the serious advantage of being completely uncaring of what they trade paint with. Everybody yields to White Van Man.

Chevrolet Express;

Heh.  That’s EXACTLY my reaction.  have a star

So a Land Rover Discovery??? I thought Ford and Land Rover parted ways?

Yes we do, and you are also correct about the Romans (what have they ever done for us?)

We could ask any of the weirdos in the US Virgin Islands.

I’ll take the Excel, and raise you the (unfortunately-but-still-relevantly-named) Hyundai 45; Spiritual Successor to the Pony.

#TIL that Bricklin, that is, the guy responsible for this beauty

You know what I don’t need? Screens that stretch from pillar to pillar. There are a limited number of things I need to know while I’m driving. Speed, maybe the remaining range, and then the info about what song is playing, or what playlist I’m on.

a good point. but still, nauseating. 

What’s wrong with”Cimmaron”?

What’s wrong with"Cimmaron"?

Actually people wanted them, but not at the premium price for what amounted to a small sedan. It is hard to be in the market for a small commuter car looking for frugal fuel economy and have to pony up 10 or 20 k more up front to get that better gas mileage, couple that with gas prices staying relatively low and the…

Basically, the same nonsense lenders did to homeowners in 2004-2007.  “Sure, you can afford this McMansion.  By the time the balloon payment comes do on your interest-only neg-am mortgage, you’ll have a better job, so we’ll just put THAT income on your credit application...”

Also gas related, check the fuel tank. No really, I once had a very early XJ6 Jaguar, they have a petrol tank in each rear wing each with its own filler cap. I lent the car to a friend for a weekend and being a good friend he thought it would be polite to return it with full tanks. Knowing it was a thirsty brute with…