I agree - initially in my comments I was taking this article’s representation of the study at face value, upon looking at the study I can see that it was a legit study and it’s conclusions were stated with appropriate disclaim. However it’s worth pointing out that a number of people who also took this article at face…

I agree with you. My point was that in light of this fact, and in light of the existence of really worthy questions worth looking into in spite of this fact, why pursue a question like “why don’t women die right after menopause”. The question itself demonstrates a lack of basic scientific understanding. And as it…

That is not my point at all. My initial point was that in light of the nebulous nature of research conclusions in this particular field, I feel that it speaks volumes as to their personal bias that a group of scientists would choose to highlight for research an idea which, as presented in this article, seems to…

Agreed. OR they actually work in a lab and are offended when lay people have the audacity to question the word of a scientist.

I doubt there was any real misunderstanding here.

“may” is the word these scientists use to frame the conclusion themselves, so I stand by it. You can’t repeat human evolution through research, so a lot of the conclusions in that field are prefaced by words like “may”.

I mean, I suppose that I would HAVE to concede that their “may” carries more weight than my “may” but considering the fact that their research does not in fact negate any of the other contributing factors I listed and concurred with my initial “maybe” framing, and also that scientific research is NOT infallible, I…

Yeah for sure. I’ve studied science in my lifetime so I know there is a lot of bullshit research out there, so when I was taking this article’s word for the framing of the study, I was a) not surprised that such bullshit would exist and b) not hesitant to call it total bs but after looking at the study, they are in…

Your edit posits a good question: why do humans have menopause, and in fact the researchers in this study are asking that question, and not “why don’t women die after menopause” which I would have hoped would be seen universally as ridiculous, but no. And according to them other species do live past their reproductive…

When you ask a question like this, several possible reasons spring to mind, any of which is a viable reason, and actually all of which may be contributing reasons. In nature when there are several reasons for something to be so, and no reasons for it not to be so, all of those several reasons to be so are “answers”…

Yeah of course. But no matter how many times you re-test something like this it can never be boiled down to a repeatable result. If you look at the study even the scientists say it “may” confer the benefit of late-life helping. In fact if you look at the study they are not framing the question as this article suggests…

I am neither sociologist nor scientist, and I never said I was. If you take a look at the study, even the scientists state that life after menopause “may” confer the benefit of late-life helping - as they and any reasonable person recognize, something like this cannot be reduced to a test which produces a repeatable…

Yeah I really feel my mind expanding from this research. Great point.

If you question the existence of ridiculous research pursued to push an agenda, you don’t “science” either. The questions you list are more examples of things which answer themselves and cannot be scientifically nailed down, ie, there are more than likely several reasons why they came to be. Worth looking into but…

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It really is amazing. My kid is making connections now intellectually and it’s like watching the aurora borealis (spoken like an obsessed parent, I know, I know).

People get so upset about the pet kid comparison but I’ve really felt that myself. It’s funny - I’m so used to training puppies that with my first I was like “jesus, how am I gonna teach him to walk” - it never occurred to me that he would have an instinct to stand upright and begin pulling himself up to standing on…

Oh ok, now I see what you are saying. Wasn’t clear at first. You could call helping with kids “altruism”, I guess, but you could also call it a necessary biological function since our offspring remain helpless for years. Real scientific “altruism” usually refers to an inexplicably selfless act, such as a bird flying…

There are a whole lot of really worthwhile things to study when it comes to sexuality and reproduction, but this specific question, a) answers itself as I laid out in detail, and b) cannot actually be answered beyond doubt. They reached a conclusion, but how did they even conduct this study? This is not a study of…

I have 2 kids under 3. It’s taken this long for me to get grossed out by the poop, but I’ve always had dogs raised from puppies. As far as walking they actually teach themselves to do that, no joke - blew my mind.