they’ll kill you then too, they just need an excuse that will fly.

And I don’t understand why so many customers think servers should kiss their asses. What’s wrong with mutual respect? If someone is a dick after you’ve treated them respectfully, relationships tend to fall apart. That goes both ways, whether you are in “service” or not.

Yeah, me too.

I mean, I think referring to this woman recounting this experience in a negative light to one person is a leap to “talking shit constantly” but whatever. It’s amazing to me that you are so up in arms over this perceived breach of etiquette but you’ve got nothing to say about her talking down to her superior on her…

I dont’ think we are at odds. You think perhaps that I am a typically clueless and accidentally hypocritical consumer, but I’m not. I’m vegan for ethical reasons and while I did not grow up on a farm I know many people who have and whose experiences both with factory farm scenarios and traditional ranching have driven…

The original article stated that “in this instance” he doesn’t have it which I think means that depending on the crime it doesn’t count or whatever.

Nobody does that. Especially not in the work place. You don’t bring an issue to someone’s face until they’ve done it a few times and you are sure it’s a real problem worth addressing openly and therefore causing ripples. And everyone develops friendships at work and therefore airs their grievances to those friends. We…

Yeah if one of my interns said that to me I’d be like “UH, NO. Wanna go home for the rest of the day?” and if one of my staff said it I’d read it as a silly joke since we are tight. But if they did it on their first day I’d be like “Oh really? That’s how you’re gonna start out? In that case the answer is no find a…

Maybe one day I’ll actually do the digging on this. For me the moral burden is carried by those who supply the demand in this scenario. If those that seek to grab the profit hide publicly behind the notion that it aids conservation we can only hope that somewhere along the line it actually does. Either way people will…

Here’s what someone else in a branch of this thread said, and I’ve heard similar arguments before and frankly based on a working knowledge of humanity this is the most plausible reality:

The act of hunting is instinctively “fun” for humans as it taps into deep instincts. By fun in this instance, it means it’s extremely engaging and heightens the senses. I don’t hunt, in fact I don’t eat meat, but that has never been a mystery to me. I enjoy “hunting” activities as well, it’s natural. But shooting a…

Posted by someone else:

I thought I had learned enough to know better but humanity can always sink lower can’t it. I must step away. Thank you for posting that video, I’m wiser for watching it.

Well that was part of my original point, that the inhumane farming practices I’m so used to (factory farming) do not involve any kind of one on one nurturing behavior between farmer and farmee. It’s the act of bottle feeding that I was naively believing would create a rather large barrier to this level of callousness…

Ok, lesson learned. Sigh. Of course it’s not illegal, it’s no different anywhere else in the world. What’s really puzzling is why this still surprises me!

Ugh thanks for informing me. In the end this is not worse than the life of a factory farmed animal but it is very hard to wrap my head around nurturing a loving animal that trusts you for months/years and then slaughtering it like this. With factory farming you tell yourself the farmers keep their distance and are…

Yes, see every time I’ve heard that argument I’ve heard an argument like this in response. For what it’s worth I feel like the heaviest moral baggage in the trophy hunting supply is carried by the people who create the demand but yeah I am not on board with the whole “but they have to, you just don’t understand”…

Ok I’ve heard that argument before about trophy hunting in general, but I’ve never been aware that trophy hunting is largely of animals raised by humans. I’ve also heard this argument disputed for what it’s worth. I’ll do my own digging on that but do you happen to know if it’s true that trophy hunting is largely of…

I mean to each her own, of course, but a purell fanny pack? You’ve lost your mind. I have 2 kids and yeah, you’re careful with newborns but that’s just crazy to me.

It was an option for them. Once you adopt a dog, you can take it to a vet and euthanize it. The vet doesn’t say “oh you didn’t get it at abc shelter did you? oh well, can’t help you”.