I have the same experience as you in growing up watching Star Trek, but the opposite when faced with TNG. I was honestly disappointed with TNG and even stopped watching by the second season due to the high level of preachiness from the show that thankfully faded when Roddenberry got the boot (only to return with a…

What about the spirit of TOS, is that not Trek of the past as well?

But TNG is the ‘Gold Standard’ for most people, so yes, it is a defense. And if you are advising people to skip episodes because they are bad, (how many does one skip in season 1, 5?10?15? What does that say about Star Trek’s ‘Gold Standard’?

So this.  Just about every single complaint I hear about the show I have 3 rebuttals for describing the same thing done in past series that the complainers either were unaware of or have forgotten about.  

So it’s sort of like Canada In Space, which also has a problem around the fact that with their generous promotion program in the DND there are too many chiefs and not enough indians as the old saying goes.

As of current continuity, Section 31 has “not officially existed” for over 200 years as a secret org working for the Federation.  maybe think about that.

You consider Jack Bauer a villain, then?

Us lefties have done handshakes all are lives and that still happens.

Really? Did you have to ask if they were trading on nostalgia at this point in the show? That has been blatant from episode one. Unfortunately, for some people its as is Seth is spray painting his name on their personal memories with this vanity cosplay project of his.

I figured out she was a double agent during their movie night together. Yes it was that obvious, at least to me. But then, its a running joke now that he always endangers the ship when he’s looking to get laid, so there is that.

I indeed have argued many times, that yes, the Orville is indeed a Seth MacFarlane vanity project, even more so this year where it seems to dwell rather longingly on pathos surrounding his passive/aggressive nature. As a gen X-er myself, I understand that Billy Joel songs lend themselves to such tendency if you follow…

Well, at least they didn’t WTF?? license a couple of creepy old Billy Joel songs about women for their Tyler subplot last season like the Orville did last night for their version of the Tyler subplot.  I like me some Billy Joel but seriously?

Absolutely. And two of them were even refered to in this ep. Saru mentioned his sister, who we met in his short, while the gold‘command’ spacesuit that Pike got wear was featured importantly in the Homeric Calypso (my fave of the 4 shorts).

Yeah... no. It was done in a perfunctory manner in the few minutes accompanied by (WTF??) creepy Billy Joel songs about women. Really, what exactly was the licensing of Don’t Ask Me Why and She’s Always a Woman for other than make the audience cringe?

Well, MacFarlane is nothing if not amazingly passive/agressive.

Yeah, he only gets physical with salt vampire aliens masquerading as women, right?  man to I hate it when people try to short circuit debates by saying “This isn’t Star Trek”.

I would argue that Dredd is a hero by the standards of the society he lives in (not to mention he has a pretty snazzy uniform) and does his work within the rules that his society lays down for him. Not to mention in the source material he has to rely on his wits more than his weaponry much of the time. Can you say the…

My theory is the ‘mirror’ universe is a side-effect of transporter technology that has creates a ‘quantum reality’ existing within the wave forms of energy the transporter accesses. Its not actually a ‘real’ alternate universe, but a side-effect of transporting sentient beings, and their patterns remain there and have…

You are assuming that the transporter error that created, IMHO, mirror environments for the characters who go back and forth are ‘simple’ and that the transporter as well as the spore drive is a simple mechanism. I think the question is how two specific timelines produce the same people from the same parents yet with…

IMHO, a universe with a Terran Empire could certainly exist causally, but not one that every iteration of Star Trek characters meet themselves and or people they have known or will know and be the same mirror universe. The narratives of the mirror universes Star Trek characters encounter are simply to closely related…