I’m having such a hard time wrapping my head around D&D deciding to end it with two short seasons while HBO was completely fine with full 10 ep seasons for 7 and 8, and even wanted more than that. Like why rush to the end like this?

I think we need to connect the dots and remember that everyone adored Emilia after season 1 but started being critical in season 2, when we now know that she was recovering from brain surgery.

Wait, does primogeniture in Westeros use something other than “normal” British rules? Or was the writing sloppy in the Varys-Tyrion discussion?

I genuinely thought she was going to finally kill Tyrion.  

Or not send scouts ahead to see, oh, if maybe there was someone hanging out waiting for them in the part of the world they haven’t visited for months...? No wonder they lost an entire ethnic group in the last battle, these people have the military planning ability of a bag of marshmallows. 

“The reveal that Varys and Tyrion knew who Jon was already, or at least Varys seemed to. Need to watch that scene again.”

I understand that even though the whole thing is supposed to be a *fantasy*, it’s based in the Middle Ages. Back then (and even now), no ruler would’ve been stupid enough to be on the verge of war and go parley in person on an open field where they’d be a sitting duck. There have been many implausible scenes on this…

Varys and Tyrion didn’t know who Jon was. Sansa broke her promise and told Tyrion, who told Varys. There’s little doubt about that.

Man, this show just can’t get out if it’s own way. Three quarters of this episode was good. Alliances were fraying in ways that were at least understandable. The reveal that Varys and Tyrion knew who Jon was already, or at least Varys seemed to. Need to watch that scene again. Varys basically turning on Dany. Then...…

I felt like the writers were being deliberate contrarians. The Gendry/Arya scene was a forced setup intended to get a reaction out of us. (Gendry would have known not to propose. He’d have wanted to stay with her, but he wouldn’t have pressured her.) Brienne/Jaime was manipulative as well.

Seriously. So many good character moments, so many alliances fairly realistically put in jeopardy, the reveal that Varys and Tyrion knew about who Jon really was this whole time, then........ teleporting fleet from nowhere to conveniently kill another dragon and capture Missandei.... and the continued idiocy that any…

I get why it is not a great idea to bring all of her troops to a negotiation, by why in God’s name would Dany bring herself and her two top advisors within range of hundreds of archers and a few dozen crossbows which are capable of eradicating entire platoons?

I dont know, it was a great performance from Gwendolyn but she went from stone cold ser brienne to " Jaimie don't leave me..." In less than an hour. Just because she got a little action? It just seemed very out of character

It’s less mistakes in war strategy (last episode took the award for that) and more where the fuck did Euron’s fleet come from? On a clear day at sea level you can see to the horizon. On top of that, Dany was airborne, increasing the distance she could see monumentally. Somehow Euron’s ships were just... there.

This episode started out well and then took a hard left into cheap twists. SMDH, as the kids say. So Many Disappointments Herein. 

I mean, I guess there’s no way Tyrion knows about Jon being a Targaryen. That would make no sense, but maybe he’d started to suspect something. It’s Tyrion after all, he’s smart. Maybe? Or it’s just gut instinct? He also seemed to be very much so on Ser Jorah’s team. Remember his ‘She needs you’ to him?

I’m also very curious about this. I’m really not sure what to make of Tyrion’s reaction. My initial thought was jealousy, but they’ve not really done anything to sell us on that. And he may think it’s a bad idea, but his lingering reaction seemed stronger than that.

So anyone want to talk about what was going through Tyrion’s mind when he saw Jon enter Dany’s chambers? He think it’s a bad idea, right? No jealousy? Maybe just a bit mournful? I’ll have to rewatch it. Because he was not happy about it. He looked concerned I guess...